Color Genes for GSD's - Page 6

Can you post pics of the pups you say are "brown" and "red"?

I look forward to seeing pictures of your girl--sounds like an interesting combo to create a lovely bitch!

Christine

I think she is a patterned sable and looks like a black/tan. They can be hard to tell in pictures. If they threw both sables and bi/color black/tans in this litter, then she is carrying the black/tan gene and sable gene. the male is likely carrying the sable and black genes.
My male is a patterned sable and looks like a black/tan in a lot of his pictures but he throws sables, and black/tans.
He has thrown one patterned sable pup and several sables when bred to black/tan females and black female.
He also threw  black/tan and  sable pups when bred to a sable female. That female had to be carrying a different color gene as well or all their pups would have been sables. The patterned sables I've seen didn't have penciling or tar heels. maybe some one has seen it differently, that's just what I have seen.
Amysavesjacks,-Congratulations on your litter.
Patterned male below.




 

The last of the vetgen coat color tests are back:  A locus - "atat  Two copies of tricolor/tan points.  Does not carry recessive black, fawn/sable or wild agouti".  Am I right to think that she will produce black pups no matter who she is bred to?  (Her mother had 11 pups, 5 of which were black.)

She should produce about 50% black pups no matter the sire. The black pups she produces will all be dominant blacks, the non-black pups will not be able to produce black unless they got the black recessive from the other parent. The black pups from her will also be dominant blacks and will produce solid black pups no matter the other parent.

Christine

A loci: at at = Bicolor? homozygous too
 

at is just tanpoint--at this point, it doesn't seem that DNA tests/researchers are distinguishing between saddle and bicolor.

Christine

i would say your girl is black/tan ,  also her parents are both black /tan so there is no way she is sable.
now genetics is very funny, you never know what will come from a breeding, but  if dad is  caring the double sable gene  that would be why you would of got all sables in last litter, but maybe  this time it was not meant to be all sables, your girl is clearly not a sable. and i have a feeling last time  all the genes came up right to be all sable, and this time you got a mix cause dad is not carryings the double sable gene. and the other colors in your  dogs lines are showing up this time.  

My boy had the exact markings as Daryl's photos, bleeding brown on the back of his legs. Much to my surprise in the past 2 weeks his legs have turned completely black again. He has some brown between his toes, but if you look at him now he looks like a solid black.