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by beetree on 07 October 2012 - 19:10

by Preston on 07 October 2012 - 23:10
bee, you can do much better than a flying bat. Here's a suggestion. If you want batty, start with this kind of video clip. It's just a stich. Let's stay on topic here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e13CqYNSAQA&feature=player_detailpage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e13CqYNSAQA&feature=player_detailpage
by beetree on 07 October 2012 - 23:10
Preston, take a long walk off a short pier.
You are an ass on top of your other problems.
You are an ass on top of your other problems.

by Slamdunc on 07 October 2012 - 23:10
What a joke! On so many levels; what a joke.
by Preston on 08 October 2012 - 00:10
Bee, that is what Olly North (aka John Cathey) when he instructed his underlings to "disappear" someone, as in permanently. Thus I don't think this remark is funny at any level and I am taking it as a veiled threat. And Slamdunc, being a police officer you should know better and not want to be involved in this.

by Slamdunc on 08 October 2012 - 01:10
Preston, I am embarrassed and ashamed for you. If you ever were an educated man as you claim with a PHD you have become a complete mockery and a laughing stock. Please, don't delude yourself into thinking that any rational people believe you or take you seriously.
by Preston on 08 October 2012 - 03:10
Jim as a licensed police officer it seems to me you should have more restraint. Your petty name calling is really something you should be above. It really doesn't reflect well on you.
What you have missed is that most of my posts are based on what other experts have stated. Most of these ideas have not originated with me. Folks can choose to read, pass, believe or not believe. I have the right to my own opinions or to accept the opinions of other experts who I respect or who have worked very closely with on investigations. I am not certain why you and beetree seem to have so much trouble with this.
It is somewhat surprising that you or beetree should function as control freaks in the manner you do. Obviously you do not value other's freedom of speech or expression if it differs from your own, and do not respect other's right to their own opinions. Not wanting others to be able to express their ideas because you don't agree is really your own personal hangup, not the other person you are labelling, and making personal attacks against. I suggest you take a look at your own behavior.
And as far as being embarrassed and ashamed for me. Really? I have taken a stand for the preservation of our Republic for many years and honorably stood up for my country and the US Constitution and Bill of Rights. I have spoken out and exposed corruption locally for many years and nationally for several recent years. I served my community for many years and numerous times provided services at low or no cost. I have served my country as best I could. And I have been able to accomplish some good in certain areas according to feedback respected others have given me.
When we see a wrong, shouldn't a normal person try to expose it and right it? That is what I have been doing for many years to the best of my ability. The problem today is that most Americans base their world view, beliefs and reality on the six mainstream news networks, which many top experts have shown conclusively are functioning as USG propaganda dispensors. I am intersested in current affairs and political corruption. One of my specialty research areas in grad school was deviant behavior and the justice system. So naturally I have had a strong continuing interest in these areas. Bullying and personal attacks have been an ongoing problem here off and on for some time. It just shouldn't be that difficult to understand what freedom of speech is and respect the rights of others to have their own beliefs. And yet you just don't seem to be able to do it.
For whatever reasons, perhaps personal, you just cannnot seem to allow me to post here without making personal attacks and belittling comments. If others agree with you and your personal attacks, they can certainly jump in and second what you do and agree with you. And you should realize I am not the first poster here to which you and beetree have made personal attacks against for their postings. I am not going to stop posting here or change what I post just to please you or as a respeoonse to your belittleing or labelling. If the site Administrator wants me to change, I will comply with his wishes. Why, because he runs the site and has the full authority of the owner. Second, I respect his judgement and believe he has been doing a very good job running PDB with this off-topic section which is sometimes a difficult challenge.
What you have missed is that most of my posts are based on what other experts have stated. Most of these ideas have not originated with me. Folks can choose to read, pass, believe or not believe. I have the right to my own opinions or to accept the opinions of other experts who I respect or who have worked very closely with on investigations. I am not certain why you and beetree seem to have so much trouble with this.
It is somewhat surprising that you or beetree should function as control freaks in the manner you do. Obviously you do not value other's freedom of speech or expression if it differs from your own, and do not respect other's right to their own opinions. Not wanting others to be able to express their ideas because you don't agree is really your own personal hangup, not the other person you are labelling, and making personal attacks against. I suggest you take a look at your own behavior.
And as far as being embarrassed and ashamed for me. Really? I have taken a stand for the preservation of our Republic for many years and honorably stood up for my country and the US Constitution and Bill of Rights. I have spoken out and exposed corruption locally for many years and nationally for several recent years. I served my community for many years and numerous times provided services at low or no cost. I have served my country as best I could. And I have been able to accomplish some good in certain areas according to feedback respected others have given me.
When we see a wrong, shouldn't a normal person try to expose it and right it? That is what I have been doing for many years to the best of my ability. The problem today is that most Americans base their world view, beliefs and reality on the six mainstream news networks, which many top experts have shown conclusively are functioning as USG propaganda dispensors. I am intersested in current affairs and political corruption. One of my specialty research areas in grad school was deviant behavior and the justice system. So naturally I have had a strong continuing interest in these areas. Bullying and personal attacks have been an ongoing problem here off and on for some time. It just shouldn't be that difficult to understand what freedom of speech is and respect the rights of others to have their own beliefs. And yet you just don't seem to be able to do it.
For whatever reasons, perhaps personal, you just cannnot seem to allow me to post here without making personal attacks and belittling comments. If others agree with you and your personal attacks, they can certainly jump in and second what you do and agree with you. And you should realize I am not the first poster here to which you and beetree have made personal attacks against for their postings. I am not going to stop posting here or change what I post just to please you or as a respeoonse to your belittleing or labelling. If the site Administrator wants me to change, I will comply with his wishes. Why, because he runs the site and has the full authority of the owner. Second, I respect his judgement and believe he has been doing a very good job running PDB with this off-topic section which is sometimes a difficult challenge.
by Preston on 08 October 2012 - 03:10
Here is a short video clip on Judge Andrew Napolitano, a great man I consider a national hero. He was fired from Fox for the following 5 minute segment, after Rupert Murdoch was allegedly coerced by certain justice dept officials. personally I beleive the Judge was telling the truth and I think he was fired because of dangerous totalitarian trends in our great nation, trends to restrict 1st amendment freedoms that everyone should want maintained.
Unless things are reversed I expect we are descending into a stasi style police state. If we don't collectively stand up for our freedoms, they will be lost perhaps forever and everything our Founding Fathers did to establish a representative Republic (not a democracy where mob rule runs things) a Republic based on freedom, liberty, private property and free association with others of our choosing, we may descend into a deeping llarge off shore corporate run totaliatrian state.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gujscUpONpA&feature=player_detailpage
Unless things are reversed I expect we are descending into a stasi style police state. If we don't collectively stand up for our freedoms, they will be lost perhaps forever and everything our Founding Fathers did to establish a representative Republic (not a democracy where mob rule runs things) a Republic based on freedom, liberty, private property and free association with others of our choosing, we may descend into a deeping llarge off shore corporate run totaliatrian state.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gujscUpONpA&feature=player_detailpage

by Slamdunc on 08 October 2012 - 06:10
Preston,
You have many threads to support your agenda on, do you have to control and take over every thread on the OT section??????? You are a passive aggressive little troll and do not take a stand for anything. I am deeply offended for the other 500,000 Police Officers that do a great job and risk their lives every day that you consistently attack and berate. I find you to be a loose cannon and have taken the time in the past to discredit you on several occasions. Your sources are garbage and your information is garbage too. I am done with you and you should know exactly how I feel about you, in case you don't you are a very sad, pathetic individual. Tell your girl from Texas I said hello and thanks for taking me off her racist email list. I am done with you.
BTW, this is me showing a great deal of restraint. If you would really like me to express what I think about you just PM me and I will be glad to tell you. Better yet PM me a phone number and I will really let you know. Since this is an international dog forum I am holding back and being quite kind.
You have many threads to support your agenda on, do you have to control and take over every thread on the OT section??????? You are a passive aggressive little troll and do not take a stand for anything. I am deeply offended for the other 500,000 Police Officers that do a great job and risk their lives every day that you consistently attack and berate. I find you to be a loose cannon and have taken the time in the past to discredit you on several occasions. Your sources are garbage and your information is garbage too. I am done with you and you should know exactly how I feel about you, in case you don't you are a very sad, pathetic individual. Tell your girl from Texas I said hello and thanks for taking me off her racist email list. I am done with you.
BTW, this is me showing a great deal of restraint. If you would really like me to express what I think about you just PM me and I will be glad to tell you. Better yet PM me a phone number and I will really let you know. Since this is an international dog forum I am holding back and being quite kind.
by Preston on 08 October 2012 - 19:10
Slamdunc, first you in no way represent or are a spokesman for 500,000 police officers. What a grandiose statement. I know quite a few, have worked with some on govt funded research projects, and a lot of the information and concerns I have originated with them. You say I consistently attack and berate these other 500,000 police officers that do a great job. Wrong claim on your part. I do not constantly attack and berate 500,000 police officers consistently. In fact in the past I have posted positive stories about some officers heroic actions. But I have been pointing out serious trends to militarize the police which produces increase police abuse and numeropus swat team errors fatal to innocents.
What I have draw attention to is the growing problem of thuggery, and 'roid use related to some police that are labelled "thumpers" or those that act like a "judge dredd". I have pointed out that the justice system is corrupt at the top, running top secret covert and illegal ops against Mexico and our Second Amendment (Operation Fast & Furious) for which they were exposed and got caught. This same justice dept has claimed that torture of prisoners captured and held with no trial under the patriot act was legal even if children and it is okay to murder or kidnap US Citizens and take them to offsite black prison ship and prisons and even ntorture and murder them with no legal representtaion or trial. Habeus Corpus was suspended. I have listed evidence from good sources that homeland security is corrupt at the top and trashing our Constitution and Bill of Rights. What has been transpiring since the advent of the war on drugs and 911 is the shift from community policing to a militarizing of the police. By the way, perhaps a surprise to you is that there are numerous active officers and many retired ones from all over the country are concerned about this. There are two separate retired offciers which were highly awarded for heroism on the job that are actively speaking out around the country on this very matter because they are so concerned. they can not be easily dismissed and their credibility is ironclad.
I have presented evidence from very good and highly credible former top USG officials that 911 was an inside job, a false flag/stand-down attack done by a criminal faction inside our own USAF and the neocons. By the way quite a few NYPD police and firemen believe that 911 was an inside job. Most folks that finally figuure this out get very angry about it.
I have discussed how the war on drugs is a big lie and how certain elements of US Intel bring in about 95% of the illegal drugs into the US and launder the money through Wall Street Banks. I have backed this up with evidence from good sources. I have discussed how the war on terror is a phoney and is used to get America into illegal, unprovoked, unconstitutional foreign mideast wars for mere war profiteering for large offshore based dense contractors. I have presented evidence how homeland security was started by the ex head of the east german stasi and is attempting to streamline all American law enforcement, alphabets and intel into one militarized force like the nazi gestapo. I have explained how major urban police depts have been signing secret jurisdictional contracts with the feds to give up jurisdiction and get money and heavy weapons systems in exchange. I have placed much of the responsibility for the increased misuse of swat teams and the resulting tragedies and the increasing thuggery and excessive unjustified charging up by police to "war on terror" policies at the top of homeland security.
I have shown evidence from credible sources that homeland security's leader is now being sued for promoting by perversion, and the person suing was a high ranking decent official who wouldn't put up with the corruption. And of course we were never supposed to find out about "fast & furious" but this heroic BATF Agent decided he could not go along with such criminal acts even if ordered by high ranking officials. Or take Philip Whitehurst MD when he exposed massive faking of evidence in the fbi crime lab, how his life was threatened and he was harassed beyond reason. I have listed articles from reputable, credible experts on how the USG is engineering a complete economic breakdown and folks need to get involved in the political process and take their Republic back.
You state that you have taken time to discredit me in the past. Actually your attempts did not accomplish that goal and merely served to reflect on your own personal issues. You fail to present any counter evidence and merely deliver personal attacks and name calling. Most folks who use PDB and read your personal attacks can easily see this is all a big smoke screen and does not involve an honest discussion of any of the evidence. Apparently you want folks to put their heads in the sand like an ostrich and let their Republic be taken from them. I tthink you have bought into numerous govt scripted narratuives which are false and these prvent you from examing the actual evidence. If you can't accept the truth or are completely unwilling to throughly examine all the evidnce, then that is your choice and your deficiency, not mine.
You claim you are showing a great deal of restraint. Restraint from what? Is this a veiled threat. And I have no interest in your "really expressing yourself" since so far all that has been is making personal attacks on me and of course not discussing any of the evidence. You say I am a troll. I disagree. I have been using Oli's great site for many years, perhaps more than you. I have not always actively been posting however, but many time just reading and enjoying photos and pedigrees of some of the world's best GSDs. And the lady from Texas you called "your girl from Texas" is not my girl, just an old friend who I respect because I bought GSD WL imports years ago from the same importer and breeder she did and I respect her dogs and appreciate their deep quality.
And actually, I never accused you of being on 'roids or a thumper or any misbehavior on your job. In fact in one post I said I thought you were probably a pretty nice guy in general because most in your specialty are a cut above the rest in my experience.
You say my sources are garbage. Actually they are quite good. How about one source being an intel officer working for the NY State Crime Commission? How about one being an NYPD Gold Shield? Is that good enough for you? Or how about a former DEA, or a former CIA, or a US Martial, is that good enough for you. Or how about a well respected former US Customs Agent and a chief investigator for a US Congressman? Or how about a source inside a drug task force? Interesting that you have have not listed any specific evidence to counter any of my claims, but just name called and insulted me with personal attacks.
You say I don't take a stand for anything. I think I have been pretty clear in doing so. I have made my positions clear. And I have clearly stated my agenda which is to do everything I can that is reasonable to get the truth out to wake folks up and take their Republic back, since the major mass media (6) are controlled dispensors of USG propaganda. I have stated that I believe the first stage in taking back our Republic is to make folks aware of the truth and expose USG lies. I have posted an article from a reputabel source how Iceland took abck their counry from the offshore banksters and even arrested banksters. Despite all the threats made against their leaders and the poeple for doing this, Iceland is well on the road to comlete recovery and financial health. It is he poster child for freedom and what should be happening in this country in order to take our Republic back from the offshore bankster hijackers. Good day.
What I have draw attention to is the growing problem of thuggery, and 'roid use related to some police that are labelled "thumpers" or those that act like a "judge dredd". I have pointed out that the justice system is corrupt at the top, running top secret covert and illegal ops against Mexico and our Second Amendment (Operation Fast & Furious) for which they were exposed and got caught. This same justice dept has claimed that torture of prisoners captured and held with no trial under the patriot act was legal even if children and it is okay to murder or kidnap US Citizens and take them to offsite black prison ship and prisons and even ntorture and murder them with no legal representtaion or trial. Habeus Corpus was suspended. I have listed evidence from good sources that homeland security is corrupt at the top and trashing our Constitution and Bill of Rights. What has been transpiring since the advent of the war on drugs and 911 is the shift from community policing to a militarizing of the police. By the way, perhaps a surprise to you is that there are numerous active officers and many retired ones from all over the country are concerned about this. There are two separate retired offciers which were highly awarded for heroism on the job that are actively speaking out around the country on this very matter because they are so concerned. they can not be easily dismissed and their credibility is ironclad.
I have presented evidence from very good and highly credible former top USG officials that 911 was an inside job, a false flag/stand-down attack done by a criminal faction inside our own USAF and the neocons. By the way quite a few NYPD police and firemen believe that 911 was an inside job. Most folks that finally figuure this out get very angry about it.
I have discussed how the war on drugs is a big lie and how certain elements of US Intel bring in about 95% of the illegal drugs into the US and launder the money through Wall Street Banks. I have backed this up with evidence from good sources. I have discussed how the war on terror is a phoney and is used to get America into illegal, unprovoked, unconstitutional foreign mideast wars for mere war profiteering for large offshore based dense contractors. I have presented evidence how homeland security was started by the ex head of the east german stasi and is attempting to streamline all American law enforcement, alphabets and intel into one militarized force like the nazi gestapo. I have explained how major urban police depts have been signing secret jurisdictional contracts with the feds to give up jurisdiction and get money and heavy weapons systems in exchange. I have placed much of the responsibility for the increased misuse of swat teams and the resulting tragedies and the increasing thuggery and excessive unjustified charging up by police to "war on terror" policies at the top of homeland security.
I have shown evidence from credible sources that homeland security's leader is now being sued for promoting by perversion, and the person suing was a high ranking decent official who wouldn't put up with the corruption. And of course we were never supposed to find out about "fast & furious" but this heroic BATF Agent decided he could not go along with such criminal acts even if ordered by high ranking officials. Or take Philip Whitehurst MD when he exposed massive faking of evidence in the fbi crime lab, how his life was threatened and he was harassed beyond reason. I have listed articles from reputable, credible experts on how the USG is engineering a complete economic breakdown and folks need to get involved in the political process and take their Republic back.
You state that you have taken time to discredit me in the past. Actually your attempts did not accomplish that goal and merely served to reflect on your own personal issues. You fail to present any counter evidence and merely deliver personal attacks and name calling. Most folks who use PDB and read your personal attacks can easily see this is all a big smoke screen and does not involve an honest discussion of any of the evidence. Apparently you want folks to put their heads in the sand like an ostrich and let their Republic be taken from them. I tthink you have bought into numerous govt scripted narratuives which are false and these prvent you from examing the actual evidence. If you can't accept the truth or are completely unwilling to throughly examine all the evidnce, then that is your choice and your deficiency, not mine.
You claim you are showing a great deal of restraint. Restraint from what? Is this a veiled threat. And I have no interest in your "really expressing yourself" since so far all that has been is making personal attacks on me and of course not discussing any of the evidence. You say I am a troll. I disagree. I have been using Oli's great site for many years, perhaps more than you. I have not always actively been posting however, but many time just reading and enjoying photos and pedigrees of some of the world's best GSDs. And the lady from Texas you called "your girl from Texas" is not my girl, just an old friend who I respect because I bought GSD WL imports years ago from the same importer and breeder she did and I respect her dogs and appreciate their deep quality.
And actually, I never accused you of being on 'roids or a thumper or any misbehavior on your job. In fact in one post I said I thought you were probably a pretty nice guy in general because most in your specialty are a cut above the rest in my experience.
You say my sources are garbage. Actually they are quite good. How about one source being an intel officer working for the NY State Crime Commission? How about one being an NYPD Gold Shield? Is that good enough for you? Or how about a former DEA, or a former CIA, or a US Martial, is that good enough for you. Or how about a well respected former US Customs Agent and a chief investigator for a US Congressman? Or how about a source inside a drug task force? Interesting that you have have not listed any specific evidence to counter any of my claims, but just name called and insulted me with personal attacks.
You say I don't take a stand for anything. I think I have been pretty clear in doing so. I have made my positions clear. And I have clearly stated my agenda which is to do everything I can that is reasonable to get the truth out to wake folks up and take their Republic back, since the major mass media (6) are controlled dispensors of USG propaganda. I have stated that I believe the first stage in taking back our Republic is to make folks aware of the truth and expose USG lies. I have posted an article from a reputabel source how Iceland took abck their counry from the offshore banksters and even arrested banksters. Despite all the threats made against their leaders and the poeple for doing this, Iceland is well on the road to comlete recovery and financial health. It is he poster child for freedom and what should be happening in this country in order to take our Republic back from the offshore bankster hijackers. Good day.
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