Teaching the "fuss" - Page 6

Yes.

I'll try and post a step by step to how I did it after training! 

Today the fuss kinda started happening naturally with my pup Ivan all for the ball....he is 5 months old.
we were playing ball just having him come with one between my legs out and I would throw the other...
Then would here and sit in front of me then I would go to basic position put the ball
under my arm and walk in a small circle and reward....only 3 or 4 strides all with eye contact and in the

pocket.

Just keepin it fun and simple....was it perfect NO was he perfectly straight NO but we just started...
and NO corrections NO leash ....just drive and the ball.

This is not the only one way and is just how we start and it worked for him....tomorrow at training may add the leash
to keep him closer but really just want the focus/eye contact....

Good luck I am not trainer but I have seen this technique used before and it worked for Ivan and
at 5 I am happy with that.

'"I wasn't told the the long down.....nor was I told the four foot leash....As we progressed I of course became even more enraged, not at Sita but at not being told these things,"

Ok, that absolutely tears it. 

Did it never occur to you to look up the rules of a competition you were entering?  You never looked?  You never got a rulebook?  You don't even need a rulebook you can freakin' Google "BH Test" and get a lot of hits.  You never bothered to find out?  You were totally expecting to be spoon fed completely and absolutely????   How dare you come on here and criticize other people and give training advice when you've proven on here that all you know about dogs is which end the food goes in and BAM, that's the end of your knowledge of the canine.

And what's worse, you say that you, CHOOSING ignorance, go out on the field with your poor dog, you tell us that OF COURSE - your words - "of course you became even more enraged" at these mythical somebodies who didn't spoon feed you every jot  & title of information because God forbid you have to make an effort.  That is appalling ignorance.  And then the fact that your poor dog is stressed to the point of peeing all over means that that dog is very familiar with your rages and has suffered from them before.  Oh, yes, very revealing.  Because she recognized them out on the field.  She'd  been in the position of being the brunt of an "enraged" SitasMom before and therefore the "making up" and the peeing and her making sure she kept the entire 8 feet of leash between you.  Poor thing, it was as far away as she could get.

You reveal your stunning stupidity every time you post on here.  For someone who needs to be told every tiny little thing about training and competing and whelping and EVERY THING UNDER THE SUN, then to turn around and flaunt your obvious brutal ignorance on Ursus, on hip ratings, on everything else....and after all that to rant at people, criticizing their food, their kennels, their training methods, their lack of participation in title competitions (the infamous PetSmart debacle), posting on almost every single thread that's on here and then accusing people of stalking you because they respond to your misinformation....UGH.  What a waste of space.

I would not think it funny if my dog was so frightened by me or my  emotions that he peed, I would feel horrible that I cowed my own dog like that.  This makes me think perhaps this was not the first time you were angry when you were handling your dog and you have allowed that anger to travel down the leash.  That is wrong, selfish and unfair to do to the dog, she doesn't understand it, but she knows you are angry and it scares her badly.  You need to stop once and for all.  If you are angry at anything, upset and cannot control your emotions, put the dog away until you have completely calmed down.  This is like the cardinal rule of dog training.

It was your responsibility to at least read through the BH routine once before you went out on the field.  I still don't get why you would think the long down would be with the dog tethered anyway.  What kind of obedience would that be an example of?  Dog stays where it's tied up?  If I were you, I would take a long hard look at who is really at fault - you and no one else. 

We all make mistakes, we all have been unprepared for things in our lives, but when this kind of crap happens learn a good lesson, and do better next time.  Don't blame the dog or the TD or anyone else.

I have used both methods of training....compulsion and modivation. With my current dog I have, a showline male. I have used modivation to teach all his commands. With the dog that I have now, Aiko, I have used the Ivan Balabanov method. I figured if it has worked for him and he has done SOOOOO well in his competitions it must be a good method! Not to say I have not corrected him. But I will NOT correct a dog unless the 100% understand what I am asking for. That just isnt fair.

First off I teach the "watch" command. When I get keep the dogs focus on me in any situation then I will teach the fuss command. Same as someone (dont remember who, sorry) mentioned above I teach the fuss as a "position". I will walk forwards, backwards, take side steps, make left or right about turns all the while keeping the dogs focus on me in the correct position. When I teach the fuss I start out with the "watch" command and then once I have the focus I will take one step slowly, if I keep the focus then I will reward. This is a very slow process but I want perfection.  I also when first teaching the fuss command will walk slowly. Only after I have the dog fussing correctly for me will I start walking normal pace and also doing the fast.

Here is a picture of Aiko doing "fuss"....


Here is TJ doing obedience. He is my boyfriends DDR/showline male...


This is Xena in the basic position doing "watch"...her toy, which she LOVES and will do anything for is in may hand. She knows if she gives me focus she can play ball..


Hope this helps!

In the pics the focus is very nice but the dog is out of position, here is where you will loose points. If I had to choose between focus and position I would choose position but my goal is to have both.

Denise