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by VomMarischal on 22 December 2009 - 04:12

Sitasmom,
You write: "I've given my dogs raw several times, the last was while camping for a whole week they, gave them chicken leg quarters, and large chunks of meat with bone, loved it! they also squirted shit everywhere the whole time. I ended up going back to kibble 2 days before heading back and they cleared up. Once I tried to do this at home and ended up pulling all the carpet from my floors.........All I can say is that some dogs seem to do better then others on raw.

But this is the whackazoid routine you followed!!! Who WOULDN'T have diarrhea? Jeeze, I instructed you, but you went berzerk and just HAD to do it this way!

day one



8am 1 cup TOWT kibble for breakfest


10am 1 thigh with bone dusted with digestive enzimes/asadophlis stuff


2pm 1 drumstick with digestive enzimes


6pm 2 cups TOTW kibble



day two


8am 1 cup TOWT kibble for breakfest


noon 1 thigh&thigh with bone dusted with digestive enzimes/asadophlis stuff 


6pm 2 cups TOTW kibble



day three


8am 1 thigh&thigh with bone dusted with digestive enzimes/asadophlis stuff


noon 2 cup TOWT kibble
6pm 1 thigh&thigh with bone dusted with digestive enzimes/asadophlis stuff 



day four


8am 1 thigh&thigh with bone dusted with digestive enzimes/asadophlis stuf

f
6pm 1 thigh&thigh with bone dusted with digestive enzimes/asadophlis stuff 



day five


8am 1 thigh&thigh with bone dusted with digestive enzimes/asadophlis stuff


noon 1 hadfull beef heart/kidney


6pm 1 thigh&thigh with bone dusted with digestive enzimes/asadophlis stuff 




snajper69

by snajper69 on 22 December 2009 - 14:12

This is a perfect example. This dog, on a diet that literally millions of dogs do well on, this dog has allergies, rashes, and itchy lips. The owner blames the kibble. Which in this case the dog can't surivive on the kibble, and does better on a raw diet. But instead of blaming the kibble, which millions of dogs are eating every day WITHOUT getting allergies, rashes, and itchy lips - can't you see that it's the DOG'S system that is at fault here and not the kibble????


Last time I checked the evolution wasn't so far out that dogs were able to make their own kibbles. Kibbles is a comercial food, not natural, dogs are designed to eat natural food, they do not know how to cook, or even shop, so how can you blame a dogs system for haveing alergies on food that is not natural to them? 

by TessJ10 on 22 December 2009 - 14:12

I think that most (not all, but the quality) commercial kibbles are more nutritionally balanced and good for dogs than the crap they've been eating for tens of thousands of years of domestication.  They haven't been fed the best - they've been fed whatever scraps and offal and spoiled leftovers the humans could spare from their scraped plates, and a lot of that is horribly overcooked or processed food.  Not a balanced, nutritionally superb diet for either humans or canines by any means, and quality commercial kibble is most likely an improvement.

Again, millions of dogs thrive on it - this dog gets horrible rashes and allergies?  Definitely the dog is the exception, not the food.

by Samba on 22 December 2009 - 14:12

Change kibble brand suddently and you are just as likely to get intestinal upset as you are with change to raw, maybe more.  Its the change and the approach to implementing the change.... not due to the type of  food. 


I don't feed raw all the time and have used it intermittently with many many dogs.  It seems GSDs are sometimes prone to GI upset.  I have heard it called "german shepherd gut".  I have been told one of the foundation dogs had digestion difficulties.  I have seen many of them  be a bit touchy when food change occurs.  For this reason, I work hard to keep them used to a variety of foods and training rewards.  With a careful approach, usually pretty manageable.   

snajper69

by snajper69 on 22 December 2009 - 14:12

".....I think that most (not all, but the quality) commercial kibbles are more nutritionally balanced and good for dogs...."
 

Again is this what nature intented for them to eat? So how can you blame a dog? Once again if you don't feed the animal what nature intented them to eat than you get issues. Some dogs will have less sever issue surem, but still it's not the dogs natural food so if it dose not respond well to it and dose well on RAW than it's the food not the dog. Why do we people always think that we now better? And that we have all the right and reason to improve on nature? lol We people fucked up more animals than improved so lets not play here mother nature. Dogs should be eating RAW this is their natural food, everything else is garbace no matter how pretty it looks and how silly claims the comercial manufacturers make, it will never be natural dog food, it will be just what it is over cooked garbage.

snajper69

by snajper69 on 22 December 2009 - 14:12

Oh and if you want to check your theory of how superior your overcooked garbage is, eat it yourself for one year, let it be your main source of nutrition and than report back how well your doing lol.

by Samba on 22 December 2009 - 15:12

It is amazing what raw can do.  I too came to it as last resort.  I adopted a dog who basically would not eat except enough to stay alive.  he spent a week at university vet clinic having innumerable tests.  I was afraid to try raw but felt like there was no other choice.  He took one bite and never looked back.  His appetite turned on and he became a beautiful, muscled and effervescent dog.  I would never have believed the affect had I not experienced it.  What a freakin' transformation.

I gave a hard time with the raw detractors because of my experience feeding it.  I didn't do it as a religion or anythjing.  It was just an attempt to save a dog.  Now mine all get some raw throughout the week. 

by VomMarischal on 22 December 2009 - 15:12

Actually, dogs HAVE evolved to eat the leftover garbage, ever since they started out hanging around with people like 15,000 years ago. 

snajper69

by snajper69 on 22 December 2009 - 16:12

I seen quite few people eating from garbage ;) did we humans evolve as well? lol Can they eat it? Surre dogs are oportunistic animals they will survive on almost anything. Should they? hmmm not so sure.

by VomMarischal on 22 December 2009 - 19:12

No, we humans use so much germicide that there's no way we could survive eating garbage! We are so squeaky clean that we have no more natural immunity, and I sure hope that's not the path dogs are on. 





 


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