any one use Ivermectrin paste horse wormer? - Page 6

I have been usig horse wormer my whole life on our dogs. It's what I was taught as a kid and just kept doing it. So you guys are saying take the liquid and feed it, not inject it, correct? How long does this $100 cattle bottle last, because I don't have mass dogs and it would have to stay in the fridge for many many years. If it expires in 3-5 yrs, I'd throw more away than I used.

I have used horse wormer in the past also, it was not the same wormer tho, didn't cover everything.
I also have used the injectable (ivermectin) , the dosage must be correct or damage is done , irreversible damage.
Most people shouldn't even bother, it doesn't save money over the trouble its worth.
 

 

the cattle injectible 1% is given ORALLY to dogs, never injected.  Use a syringe so proper (consult your vet on proper amount per lb) amount is given. 

I use this but on recommendation from a vet who was also a breeder years ago, I dilute it in propolyne glycol - so the amount given is more than a drop or two that might not be aborbed properly (the amount of the straight cattle liquid wormer is quite small), and then it is given by mouth - or I put it on the food once/month.  However I do not give cattle ivomec to any of my stud dogs (I have been told it could cause sterility or loss of semen motility) so the boys that are breeding I give interceptor or heartguard monthly instead.  I am considering daily heartworm preventative (made for dogs) am researching it some more before making that switch but it looks good (price and safety).  I also do not give the ivomec (cattle injectible) to pregnant females.    But in the end especially if you have more than a couple dogs, it will save you money to use the cattle ivomec straight or diluted in propolyne glycol.   The bottle of ivomec and the PG also, will "keep" if kept at room temp in a dark cabinet - but if I had only one or two dogs I'd give them interceptor.  Or maybe you can get together with a friend or two and split the ivomec between you so it didn't sit for years.

molly

Molly...would you please explain if a 1,000 gallon batch / tank of 1.87% ivermectin is siphoned off into tubes of 1.87% ivermectrin. Then a notch of 1.87% ivermectrin is administered, how suddenly the laws of physics cease and the 1.87% paste suddenly is not a known dose? See one notch, 12 notches, a cup, a quart, a gallon, even 1,000 gallons of paste is put into paste as a carrying agent to guarantee 1.87% or very close to in any quantity of said product. So how does the laws of physics suddenly cease to exist when you notch it off for a dog? You keep stating that 1.87% that is evenly distributed in a paste suspension is not correct. Please, pretty please with sugar on top, explain how suddenly a sealed and packaged product, of 1.87% ivermectin that is evenly distributed in a paste suspension to preserve the integrity of the dose and to guarantee 1.87% or very close to it in any quantity of said product, that you buy and pay for, suddenly becomes something else in your mind once someone decides to use it for a dog?

Molly...therefore I now understand WHY you refused to answer my queries...because you couldn't. You failed to prove your point and provide interesting dialogue. You can't prove your point and you are speculating. You can't explain, can't prove it, can't verify, no references, yet consistently and constantly posting that your are right with zero percent credibility on your personal and unsubstantiated opinion post. The fallback position you have taken is that you can't...hence the caveat on a personal and unsubstantiated opinion post. Imagine others now evaluating and interpreting your posts based on opinion and misinformation. Like all your refusals to provide ANY evidence, verification or information when you are found and proven wrong. Your opinion is irrelevant. Asked for facts not opinions, and when you try to explain why your opinion is more relevant then the facts you were asked for, it shows that you do not have any understanding or product knowledge of the product you are so ignorant about and against. 

Ask the vet Jerry - or see my posts from the vets above.  Or, just give the paste to your dogs and hope they continue to be non-dosed so you don't have any problems with overdosing them, by using a product made for horses and compounded in a paste that does not allow for even distribution of the poison inside.  Do what you like.  Just don't recommend doing this to others without providing proof that what you are doing is not dangerous to their dogs.  I have provided that proof.  You keep doing whatever you want to do Jerry - or you might think about learning a better way from someone who is giving sound advice, take it or leave it Jerry!

molly

can we please get back on subject, if you two want to fight, just PM each other so the rest of us don't have to deal with the bickering.

Please.

Molly,

 Why do you keep using my name. I am not wiener.


Jerry Marshall

AKA Bizman

Molly-   "see my posts from the vets above" not proof   "just give the paste to your dogs and hope they continue to be non-dosed so you don't have any problems with overdosing them, by using a product made for horses and compounded in a paste that does not allow for even distribution of the poison inside" prove it   "Just don't recommend doing this to others without providing proof that what you are doing is not dangerous to their dogs." Ah, pot, kettle black as they say. I posted up front it could be dangerous, read the posts.   "I have provided that proof." You have not provided a shred of proof what so ever!!!   "or you might think about learning a better way from someone who is giving sound advice" What??? Sound advice without proof, just your opinion over and over and over, no sound advice or truth based on no proof!!!   Grow up and stop telling lies. You have no proof and can not prove different.

SitasMom "can we please get back on subject, if you two want to fight, just PM each other so the rest of us don't have to deal with the bickering."   Was on topic the whole time. You asked someone uses if they use it. I told you I did and how. The arrogant know it all (sarcasim) that keeps posting negativity demonstrating they do not have any understanding or product knowledge of this product you asked about should be ashamed of herself for all her antics here. Being so ignorant about and against a product they do not have any understanding of or product knowledge about.