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by Mackenzie on 16 February 2009 - 13:02

There is a plan B that I think has a chance of working.  I wrote to  David Payne a few days ago but he has not acknowledged the mail.

If anyone wants info then give me your email  address and I will explain.

by paulie on 16 February 2009 - 13:02

Can i please ask a question of Mackenzie?

        Who in his/her opinion is that " someone "  with REAL KNOWLEDGE, INTEGRITY AND COURAGE?   Put up your identity, who knows, it may be you  who can lead us to NIRVANAH.
    
  Regards. Paul Rattigan.

Videx

by Videx on 16 February 2009 - 14:02

 I reply to all non-anonymous personal emails that I receive, which require a reply.

gsherwood

by gsherwood on 16 February 2009 - 14:02


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Sue B

by Sue B on 16 February 2009 - 14:02

MacKenzie,

You come onto this messageboard anonymously, I respect your right to do so. However what I do not respect is when anonymous entities think they have a right to come on here and throw around insults. Your latest post stating non of the people who have so far contributed to this thread are with No REAL Knowledge, Integrity, Honesty or Courage, means I now render anything else you have to say with TOTAL DISREGUARD. If in your anonimity, you can't be constructive without being insultive, then I feel compelled to point out that You are the only one suffering from all of the negative attributes you selected above. This breed dont need anymore ghosts casting shadows over REAL people, we have enough gremlins and cowards in the mix without someone that doesnt even live here anymore joining in.
Apologies will be accepted but if you insist on throwing insults at least have the COURAGE to reveal yourself if only to prove what REAL KNOWLEDGE it is you think you have.
Regards
Sue B


Videx

by Videx on 16 February 2009 - 14:02

The GSD breed here in Great Britain is represented by the GSD Breed Council, and the Kennel Club agreed to the establishment of the GSD Breed Council for this purpose. They Kennel Club have also invited representatives from the GSD League, the BAGSD and the UK Alsatian Club, for "DISCUSSIONS" on several very important and fundamental issues concerning our GSD breed.

These Clubs are the VOICE of our breed with the KENNEL CLUB. The GSD Breed Council is made up of our GSD Breed Clubs.

It is these Clubs, alongside the GSD League and the BAGSD and the UK Alsatian Club which we need to ensure, ADOPT the policy of "REQUESTING THE KENNEL CLUB TO SEPARATE THE GSD(Alsatian) BREED INTO TWO SEPARATE BREEDS, GERMAN SHEPHERD DOG and ALSATIAN.

The group involved in the BALLOT, are influencial, and those that HAVE voted, many are amongst the most influential within our breed. The PUBLIC AVAILABILY of this BALLOT will be influential, is being influential. It is this influence that must me used within the GSD Breed Clubs, and then within the GSD Breed Council, to ensure this POLICY is presented to the KENNEL CLUB as the POLICY of our GSD representitive bodies, THE GSD PARTNERSHIP.

This must be our PLAN

In pursuance of the separation of our breed into TWO separate breeds, from German Shepherd Dog (Alsatian) to German Shepherd Dog and Alsatian, if following presentation and careful consideration by the Kennel Club, they refuse our request, the very minimum that should be agreed, is the complete DELETION of the bracketed name (Alsatian). We should also require the FCI, SV, WUSV GSD Breed Standard to be accepted and adopted by the Kennel Club.


by Mackenzie on 16 February 2009 - 17:02

Hello Sue B

Regarding your post today I have to correct you once again

Firstly, Mackenzie is my real name and, therefore, I have done nothing anonymously.

Secondly, once again you have misinterpreted plain English.  I have not said that anyone on this messageboard lacks either real knowledge(although clearly some have more knowledge than others), integrity, or, courage.  I have not even suggested that.  This is a serious matter and anyone who will represent the breed will need all of those qualities because not everything will be music to everyone's ears. 

Thirdly, I have said nothing on this messageboard that I know to be incorrect.  In fact everything is checkable and older members will remember some of these things from say 1970 onwards.

As far as I am concerned the fact that choose to disregard anything that I say is of no consequence to me at all.   You really must stop putting your own interpretation on what people actually say and what is written.   The thing that concerns me is that when you are judging and you consider a particular point in the breed standard do you say to yourself " the breed standard says exactly such and such but what it really means is so and so". 

Kind regards

Mackenzie
 


Videx

by Videx on 16 February 2009 - 18:02

 Mackenzie: Please email me again. I apparently did not receive it. I have recieved many emails onthis subject, besides the votes, and I have replied where a reply is clearly required.

Sue B

by Sue B on 16 February 2009 - 18:02

You really must stop putting your own interpretation on what people actually say and what is written. 

In that case be more explicit in what you say, dress it up anyway you want Mackenzie but there were more than myself on here that took what you said as an insult and more than me who thought you anonymous, see posts above mine. Though once again the fact I am straight to the point and Say It as I see it (as a true Yorkshire lass would) appears to make me the easy target. So I get up some peoples noses, tell me something I dont know. However, if you really wanted people to know who you were, why be so candid in revealing your identity and why continue to keep up the cloak and dagger existence in your reply to my PM to you on that very subject?

As for not reading the English that was written please refrain from accusing me of what you quite happily do yourself, for what I said was that I DISREGUARD COMMENTS ON HERE FROM ANONYMOUS ENTITITES THAT SEE FIT TO INSULT PEOPLE, if you are not on here anonymously then clearly this did not apply to you and you have my apologies.

Regards
Sue B

by milly on 16 February 2009 - 20:02

Take a look at this link its really interesting reading http://www.geocities.com/johnscz_ddr_k9/100_years_gsd.html and a lot of research as gone into it someone with a lot of knowledge.

Milly





 


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