Royal Canin USA Recall - Page 5

I feed mainly raw, but supplement some of my dogs with RC German Shepherd. I will no longer feed Royal Canin. I have also been using the Wellness Brand food, the 5 type mix. Has anyone had experience with Wellness food? China is no friend of ours. They have no respect for our dogs, people, or anything else. We are fools if we think otherwise. Dennis

Your comment, 4pack, "Why not just let Americans do it substandard?" just forces me to type. Was there a conspiracy? I found it astounding that Menu Foods, or any company for that matter, would take responsibility and bring this subject out. The person responsible will undoubtedly shoot right up to heaven when his time comes (sure hope plans aren't under way to expedite this journey). Or, am I being naive, and the story would have surfaced on it's own? (Lots of dogs and cats affected, but could this have been attributed to other causes--old age, etc.) I.. wonder. Now here's where my neverending thinking comes into play----The company offers millions (30+?) in PR. But, that's actually a pittance if you're comparing that amount with what could be made by some 'Biggies' if our money was spent on home products vs imports. Tell me, what is your view toward importing right now? Who benefits if we purchase only home-grown? Was the 30 mil an offer from a decent guy, or was the 30 mil and exposure a contrived way to bring to light dangerous products by a concerned group, or was 30 mil a 'Biggie' plot to expose and purposely cause hysteria, thereby benefitting from the public's outcry for banning imports. AND, was Biggie responsible for the tainted food? Whose Biggie? You decide. My imagination could lead us to secret world societies bent on global domination. (Yes, Rob. It's Friday.) Then again, it could be some sleezy exporter who has screwed everyone. I hope the sleezy exporter is the culprit. Anything else is unthinkable. G-d, I sound like I've jumped on the bandwagon of mass hysteria. I'll take it down a notch and agree with roborob--let's use our intellect and go from there. Question! and, Question! As to the dogfood companies--Did they knowingly put out a (for lack of a better word) poisoned product. Some probably did, others could be in shock. Hard to make that call, but some are trying to do the right thing. That's a step forward. I realize not much comfort for owners of the affected animals, but we have to start somewhere. They have absolutely no choice now but to welcome scrutiny and questions. AND, so do our "authorities"; otherwise, there's no telling how many theories could pop up. BTW, thanks animules. On a lighter note, I'm watching "War of the Worlds" right now and saw "Conspiracy Theory" recently. Does life imitate art, or is it the other way around? Oh.., the sci-fi's over and Kurt Russell and Dakota Fanning are on the TV. "Dreamer", the warm, all-American, home-spun, race horse story---Thank God! My faith in American values is about to be restored.

Roborob, I would advise that you get some real solid evidence before you advice the world that ALL Royal Canin is being recalled. This is NOT accurate information and is not fair to a reputable company such as R.C. No I do not have interrest in R.C. I do however believe that before I put damaging information towards breeders, people, institutions etc. I need to darn well have my facts straight. This is not just directed at you but everyone that loves to slander and pass hearsay information that destroys peoples lively hood. I appreciated the humor of 1doggie2 about the CEOs working Boban, but it is also annoying that all this was gone over some time back about Boban being handler vicious. It was cleared up in the end but evidently the damage was done and some still see this dog in this light. Oh well, I guess that's the best we can expect. Just remember though that when any of you that enjoy doing this get ripped and dragged through the mud and your kennel name or your name is ruined you earned it. For those that do not do this or do it with out intending harm to others then forgive me, I am just real tired of some that get a little info and run a marathon with it for the purpose of destroying someone. Good night

Roborob, IF your information is correct then please accept my apology. The latest information I have does not say that ALL R.C. is being recalled. I respect you and have no problem with your posts. This issue of people ripping others apart without factual information, just cuz they can, is ugly and drives me nuts. ( I am referring to those that are not on this site to defend themselves.) Either way, please accept my apology for my angry words.

olskoolgsds, Not a problem, as I stated more than once; I am not an expert nor am I the "final solution"...I was just passing on an article I read on the Reuters byline about RC that I knew was going to be of interest to some here on the board...As far as I know RC has voluntarily recalled ALL of their dry products as the article stated...I am saddened that I can no longer trust the company that makes RC as it was something I used and actually promoted to others to use... There are some folks here I respect more than others visa vie the help they have given to me since my first time "on board"...Bob O has always been a wealth of information and I respect him and his opinion very much, in this case I think he might have "stayed and had one too many dances" with RC...I do not want to get into an argument with Bob O over this I respect him very much as what he has forgotten I am still learning...Its always up to the individual to make the choices that are best for them, who am I to tell anyone what to feed their dogs, I have never done that and never will...If I am guilty of passing along usefull information that might sway someone one way or the other, so be it...GUILTY as charged...Quoting the news or a newspaper can be very tricky as the "news" seems to change with each reporting... Wellness is a premium dog food but for me the "analysis" 22-12-3 is a little low, I prefer something closer to say 26-12-3 but again too each their own...My short list of dog foods includes many brands, I represent none of them and its only through research that I know whatever it is I know...As a biologist if I've learned anything its that you never make statements that can not either be backed up with data or replecated in a lab...I never just talk to be heard, not here not anywhere, the last thing I want is trouble here with all of you so whatever it is I might say comes from the heart or is fact as far as I know it to be...I am not an expert and not the last and or final anything...Like I said; I am no better or worse than any of you...But I do love GSDs more than just about anything... As far as I know and this is what Reuters was reporting yesterday; ALL RC dry products were being recalled, ALL...That is a fact, are they contaminated...???I never said that...I now see that RC is recalling all dry dog foods that contain rice protein concentrate with the name of Sensible choice, the recall includes the chicken meal and rice, lamb meal and rice and catfish varieties...That is different than what they had been reporting yesterday, funny how the story has changed in just 24 hrs...Go to the FDA website and read for yourselves whats being said about the recall and RC...Will anyone ever really be sure whats good and whats bad when we have no idea how long this has been going on and exactly what will be done to insure it doesn't happen again...We know what they want us to know through their PR people who really only consider one thing...THE BOTTOM LINE...Feed whatever it is you want that is always your choice, I know what I'm going to do now as well as tomorrow... Olskoolgsds, like you I am sensative to what people say, apology accepted it is never my intention to hurt or be critical of anyone here on the GSD database a place I really like to come to...I do speak from the heart with a little knowledge thrown in for good measure but again I am not the final word on anything and not a day goes by where I don't learn something new... It can be all good can't it...??? Rob

....pointin' out that al-Qaida and bin Laden have publicly proclaimed their goal is to kill "4 million Americans along with territory animals". I can't figure out why our U.S. mass media did not report this "problem." "Jihad Muslims virtually dominated the import/export business in China" ... hummmmm let me say that again.... "Jihad Muslims virtually dominated the import/export business in China" ... ok, I feel better now. "There has been an increased upsurge in Islamic Resistance expressions in China" "Several large demonstrations have been staged by Islamic Resistance to protest intrusions on Muslim life with-in the world we know it's only a matter of time before we all wise up" Good Will to you all.

I see the theories are popping up. Well, I said I had to question the RICE in Newman's Organic Chicken and Rice. The dry food said they use Organic rice (eliminating any problem), but the canned food said brown rice (no mention of organic). Went on their website and they say---I guess for someone like me--they use NO wheat gluten or RICE protein concentrate in their products, and aren't part of the recall. Everything is made in the US and certified by Oregon Tilth as organic.

BabyEagle4U, What a scary thought?!.....however;...it was also one of my thoughts...I'm ashamed to say. Maybe the FDA will pay better attention to our "imports"?....God willing..hopefully some good will come of all this horrific mess. ...just my opinion...

I sure don't get a warm fuzzy feeling knowing that the grains are processed in China and sold to the US by a company called "Chem Nutra"..... Chemical Nutrition?

Crhuerta, don't be ashamed to say what most of us are thinking. On this baord I have been knocked around a number of times for even daring to suggest that GSD breeders might not want to sell dogs to China after ths stories broke about skinning GSD's alive for fur trim on coats. I was made out to be a racist and a liar and who the hell did I think I was to try to tell anyone where they should or should not sell their dogs? The videos were on the net for anyone to see who wanted to look and it was documented on a number of news programs. I didn't make it up. Now we are dealing with one of the worst situations we could possibly be presented with - allowing that same country, a country with no environmental laws and few human rights, to poison our pets and maybe even ourselves.