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GSDtravels

by GSDtravels on 26 March 2016 - 07:03

Using Shtal's line of reasoning: Could Shtal's version of Shtal's god make an object so heavy that he himself could not lift it? A cannot be A and non A. Guess he admits that his version of his god is not possible , oops!

by vk4gsd on 26 March 2016 - 07:03

My dears shtal god is scared of iron chariots, and feels threatened by iron age primitive desert dwelling sheep herders building a tower from sticks and tar invading heaven....so doubt it.

Shtal can not even use his reason to know if god exists or he is being tricked by Satan or just making shit up can you shtal.

Mindhunt

by Mindhunt on 27 March 2016 - 19:03

Stahl, do you understand how the human brain processes information?  It does it in chunks, small chunks (hence the cognitive neuro term "chunking").  That means these incredibly long cut and paste posts will not prove your point.  Instead, create a synopsis with a few sentences that condense and clarify your point.  Precise language, not the ad nauseum preaching.  If you want to make a point and truly understand what you are cutting and pasting, then nice clear concise small paragraph............


by vk4gsd on 27 March 2016 - 20:03

Have you not heard of the Gish Gallop, the term was invented after analysing a certain creationist debating style. The Gish Gallop has been adopted by pretty much every creationist. Shtal is yet another example of a Gish Galloper.

Hundmutter

by Hundmutter on 28 March 2016 - 06:03

Mindhunt, you think Shtal is actually capable of doing
that ??? WoW.

Pete that's an interesting term, not heard it before, off
to look it up !

by vk4gsd on 28 March 2016 - 08:03

Its a tactic used in live debates by dishonest people. William lane Craig only agrees to a debate if he goes first. Debates are strictly timed. WLC uses his time to ask a rapid fire list of questions that cover every branch of science, ie cosmology, evolution, geology, time travel, psychology.....each question would take years to answer, he knows this.

The opponent has to try answer them all and do a superficial job which Craig can pick apart and appear to win or the opponent can answer one properly and Craig claims victory cos only one question was addressed. Anyway the opponent only has time to rush through the questions, they never get a chance to question Craig. Craig never does or has to answer, Craig never puts himself in a position to answer anything, support his claims or provide evidence....just like shtal and other creationists.

Craig makes millions off believers by doing this circus trick.

Craig won't debate a philosopher or go second in a debate or his trick won't work and he only debates if he sets the topic and the rules.


Shtal

by Shtal on 28 March 2016 - 23:03

GSDtravels, there is nothing wrong with any of the arguments that I have given to you. They are irrefutable - your "refutations" of them is illogical.


by vk4gsd on 28 March 2016 - 23:03

So says shtal or whoever is posting for him today.

You don't have any arguments, you have supernatural claims with no evidence. Playing along, if they are irrefutable why are they so easy to refute. Where is your evidence. You are not only easy to refute, you contradict yourself and have zero evidence.

Shtal

by Shtal on 29 March 2016 - 02:03

vk4, in this link http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/community.read?post=737166-ark

When you said "OK gotcha, thanks for clearing all that evolution nonsense up"

 

If you remember why you said that? we were talking about Micro and Macro evolution back in 2013 with you. You can click that link and re-read it.

You see science is self-corrective, I happened to like science but you see “creation view” does not have to be “constant corrected” because its right; okay, and what people said of course we don’t see changes, farmers has been raising dogs, you know 4,000 thousands years and we don’t see changes because vk4 believes it takes too long…if you don’t see faith in their I can’t help you; okay, you are relying on unseen, oh yes long ago and far away, evolution is got to be biggest fairytale for an adults ever created, everything vk4 believes requires faith, what we see dogs produce dog but if you give them vk4 says billions of years…well, okay, you just left science and went into religion and didn’t even see it. You didn’t even see what happened in your mind, you jump from “science to faith” back and forth all the time. Well we see dogs produce dogs but if we have enough time vk4 says; stop, stop and stop; you are leaving science right on that moment.

What we evolved into new species? Nothing ever evolved into any new species, I hate to use the word species, and nothing ever evolves into new kind. Nobody ever observed anything change into different kind; bacteria are still bacteria, if they become resistant to a drug is because they lost the locking mechanism on the ribosomes so that about they can’t lock-on, is no different than somebody handcuff everybody and sending them off to jail to kill them - but you don’t have any arms, so they can’t handcuff you, so you survive, wow beneficial mutation, well it might be for the moment but it’s not any new information, bacteria don’t evolved into something else, they loose information, they are resistant to a particular drug for a short time but then when you put them back into population a regular bacteria and they are inferior. Bacteria are still bacteria for heaven sake; that is not example of evolution.

So I gave you the proof!!!


by vk4gsd on 29 March 2016 - 02:03

Oh you poor retarded person, that comment plus calling you a genius and such is pure sarcasm, pure mockery of your stupidity.

Every normal reader gets that, you have zero social skills and no real intelligence to not get that.

You troll years old posts to cherry pick, quote mine out of context. Your dishonesty is sinful by your own religion.

You dear shtal are an embarrasment to your family, yourself, your god and Christianity.






 


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