WDA Proposed By-Law Changes - Page 5

Bubba,

The wording is affiliated, not necessarily a member. There's no doubt the AKC is affiliated with the FCI.

Nope .. they have a letter of understanding related to registrations .. each honors the others.  More of a Mexican standoff.  The FCI has no juistiction or power to enforce anything in the USA .. that is the power of the AKC, and in the FCI countries ( VDH is the German member of the FCI ) AKC grants all powers to the FCI.  It means that any AKC registered dogs that are entered in foreign competitions falling under the FCI umbrella are accepted and FCI registration is valid for shows or competitions in the USA.  If I move my AKC registered dog to an FCI country my registration is accepted but I must register with the FCI.  The reverse is also true for FCI registered dogs moving to the USA.  There is one Caribbean country/territory that has dual .. perhaps Puerto Rico .. FCI and AKC.

"If I move my AKC registered dog to an FCI country my registration is accepted but I must register with "that nation's kennel club which is a member of" the FCI.  The reverse is also true for dogs moving to the USA - "that nation's kennel club which is a member of the FCI".  There is one Caribbean country/territory that has dual .. perhaps Puerto Rico .. FCI and AKC."

The FCI doesn't actually register dogs, kennel clubs from various nations register dogs.

To be a member of the FCI, kennel clubs must agree to use the breed discriptions have been developed and "stored" withing the FCI. The kennel clubs must also agree to all the other rules and regulations of the FCI..

The AKC has deveoped its own standards for many breeds, it has its own rules and regulations, so at this time, AKC cannot become a member of the FCI.

for more informaiton about the FCI
www.FCI.be

Sorry .. correct .. I left out the Member breed registry .. indeed the FCI does not register anything.  The FCI is basically an event coordinator in part and a front for the big European breed registries and breed clubs with the exception of the UK.  Most of the UK club of nations and former UK colonies are not FCI members although I think there may be a few exceptions.  The "Master" kennel clubs based on the old British empire usually predate the FCI and have their own rules and regs.  They don't need the FCI and the breed descriptions for the FCI are written by and based on the dog breeds original country of origin so guess who wrote the GSD description and rules for the FCI.  The FCI is basically an international version of the AKC with the members being one overarching breed club registry per nation.  The AKC is the 800 pound gorilla in the USA and they have no need or financial incentive to join the FCI.  In the case of the GSD if the AKC were a member of the FCI the breed standard for the GSD in the USA would be written by the SV in Germany in what is a not so obvious process but that is how it works.

OMG.  Can't believe that I'm going to agree with Nia! Lol (by the way I am kidding.)

Nina is right this has nothing to do with USCA.  This is all fallout between GSDCA and WDA from the world championships.  

The WUSV has already recognized WDA members as members of the WUSV and stated this in a letter to USCA which the president of USCA, Jim Alloway, then flew to Germany and confirmed in a meeting with the WUSV.

WDA members are already recognized by the WUSV.  Nothing is going to change fast.  

I have no idea what is going on with the bylaw changes but I will go out on a limb a nd state that I do trust Dan Yee.  I worked with him a lot in getting ready for those last year's world's and I believe he has the organization and more importantly the dogs best interests at heart.  I also know Carl Smith well and I trust him implicitly.  By all means ask them about the bylaw changes.  I bet you'll be pleasantly surprised.

Matt 

...and I can't believe that you have come out of the woodwork again, Matt Levin.    After being so quiet for 3 years, it's interesting to see you now.  The letter you refer to does not state that WDA is a member of WUSV, but that GSDCA-WDA is, because WDA and GSDCA are one and the same.  Frankly, it looks like Yee's ploy is now a back-fire.  Like Friend of USA. 

Nia,

Never been in the woodwork and I've never been quiet! lol

Just been concentrating on what's important,  my family, training my family's dogs, and helping out where it really makes a difference.  Last year I was busy as the tracking coordinator for the World Championships in Philly, before that I was the tracking coordinator for the WDA Nationals and the Joint Qualification Trial.

We disagree on what the letter states.  The WUSV has known for a long time that the WDA and GSDCA were two different organizations.  Jim Alloway's letter to the USCA membership last spring and still up on the USCA website as well as numerous regional websites states that.  The WUSV chose (their choice) to consider them one as the same.  Nothing said in the letter about the "agreement".  They directed USCA to accept entry into USCA trials of anyone with a WDA scorebook.  None of this has changed.

What I think is more important is that the WUSV stated that they wanted the GSD organizations to quit fighting and to work together.  So much for that!

I won't be wasting any more time on this discussion either.  It's all just rampant speculation or revisionist history on what happened years ago.  We should instead focus on where we are going and what we are going to do to protect our dogs and our breed test.  We almost had a world championship with no stick hits. Just that close to it happening. 

We need to knock off the posturing and infighting and learn to all work together or we're not going to have anything left to hold at the end of the day.

To me that's what's really important.

I don't know what you mean by "Like friend of USA"

Matt

Uh-huh.