End of the World & Beyond - Page 5

Sorry Ibrahim,
I can't keep up with all that, hell I'd be here all day.

Without being disrespectful,
your book as no more meaning to me than the books of others.

In my part of the world I can say this, in some parts I could be put to death for my words, that is correct is it not?

Your not discussing now, your doing the same thing others have tried.

Moons.

I probably am missing half of what you are trying to say because frankly my friend, I can't understand it.

Ibrahim I understand; you, are without excuse. (Unless of course you're in Quebec Province)


 

Soooo, we all believe and do what we think important! and we will all be held accountable if we have been lax or wrong in what we are doing (or not doing).

Christianity doesn't happen in a vacuum.  Perspective.  If what really mattered to you was what mattered to your God, you would go about your business in such a way as to represent Christ.  If what you are accomplishing amounts to little more than perpetually "clanging the gong", what have you done?  Indeed.  Recognize the time.  At this point, your words are empty and meaningless (as are mine), and often serve to hinder the truth

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You and those like you, fill our churches, are not preaching anything about Hell, or the end times, and IMO will be held accountable to God for it.

You're making a lot of assumptions about someone you really know nothing about.  Contrary to what you may hear "preached" on PDB, the goal is not to run your mouth incessantly, it's to follow the one who went before you.  What good are an abundance of words that fall to the ground one by one? 

No Moons, I have difficulty in expressing myself on difficult subjects like religion. You don't have to read all that, I just offered something to look at an have an idea about others, I don't want you to believe in what I believe, that is to everyone not only Moons, I want you to have some info about the other side of the coin.
As I said before I myself I am not considered a true Muslim by many Muslims in my country because I do not follow all what a Muslim should, so I am in no way asking anyone to change. In God's final evaluation Moons you migh be a much better person than me and many others, I have no right to judge you or any other.
I only would like others to have an idea about what people here believe. I won't feel bad  or offended if you tell me " it is all nonsense".

Ibrahim
 

Crap.  
Moons,  I had a long post typed out for you, but it went bye bye somewhere.  Anyway, I agree with a lot of what you say.



 

Carlin, I've read your posts, that is where I have  learned where you stand. No need to talk with big words, they are the ones that fall on the ground unheard.  Just read what other's have said.  It impresses no one.
I'm  not going to argue with you, as that is fruitless also.

So, I'll reiterate what I've previously said.  You do what you think is right in God's eyes, and I will do the same.
Nuff said.

Ibrahim,
You are one man out of a very few who I would really like to meet in my lifetime.
There are so few.

I know very little about this, some of what I know came from exchange students from Saudi Arabia, and Iran a long time ago.
Only a few things, but enough.

I am no higher than any other, there are those who think they are above others, it is foolishness and their own illusion.
I see you beside me.

Take care my friend.

Moons.



 

Carlin,

I confess I did not follow all your last post. What I want you to understand is this: This post was meant as "have a look and have an idea" not this is the truth and come believe all of it.

About me Carlin, I will tell you this:

I am a Muslim and I thank God I am. I believe in God 100% without any doubt. But I have a conflict: I do not believe that the Islam we were taught in school is the "true Islam". I do not really think it really matters to God that I pray 5 times a day. I do not believe that a Christian or a Jew is wrong in what he/she believes as long as he/she acts humane and does what his/her heart tells.
Now strict Muslims do not think I am a true Muslim. I believe what is more important to God is that I don't kill, I don't steal, I don't hurt other humans and I don't hurt the earth and all souls on it, I respect others and their personal freedom and choices.
Strict Muslims tell me that is good but not enough and that  I'm wrong about my assumptions and I should follow God's words literally.
I still believe in God, and I think I am a correct Muslim, so if you thought I changed my stands in life, that is not true, I am still what I always was. 

Ibrahim

Ibrahim, where are you getting the figures from ?  Where is your
proof that more Atheists and Agnostics commit suicide than do
believers ?  Who provided that statistic, based on what sample ?
As for Japan, many ppl there are of the Shinto faith, so I don't
really understand your line of argument.

Hundmutter,

Those are not my figures nor my thoughts, those are some articles about Islam's view on certain few issues , they were written by a person named Mustafa Malaeka.

Thanks Moons