This is a placeholder text
Group text
by Jacko on 27 November 2010 - 00:11
nice to know the average joe or jane can use their knee as good as the spyder...thanks for the laugh.
by K9sRule on 27 November 2010 - 01:11
I thought this article put it well:
http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/jumps.htm
I too am highly against kneeing or simply raising up your leg when he jumps. Reward positive behavior with a treat and praise, teach your kids to do the same. Teach him the appropriate behavior so that he knows exactly what is expected of him.
http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/jumps.htm
I too am highly against kneeing or simply raising up your leg when he jumps. Reward positive behavior with a treat and praise, teach your kids to do the same. Teach him the appropriate behavior so that he knows exactly what is expected of him.
by K9sRule on 27 November 2010 - 01:11
"No, and I don't say ouch and leave the room either when a young dog bites me".
Phil-- I thought you yell ouch, light your hair on fire and run from the room screaming
Phil-- I thought you yell ouch, light your hair on fire and run from the room screaming
by Slamdunc on 27 November 2010 - 01:11
First, let me repeat that it can be very dangerous to knee or kick a dog in the chest. There is a bundle of nerves there that can cause serious damage if impacted there. Just because it hasn't happened doesn't mean it is a safe technique to use or explain to novices
Gemini,
Of course my dog gets physical corrections for disobedience. The correction is hard enough to stop the behavior and leave an impression that the behavior is wrong and will not be tolerated. This is only after the dog is trained in a positive, motivational fashion, proofed and knows the expected behavior. My corrections are fair and to the point. I have raised several dogs form pups to SchH 3;s and have been involved in SchH since the 90's. I work a sufficiently hard Police K9 that I raised from a pup. The dog is well trained and knows a lot of commands. When I give a command the dog understands he has 2 seconds to perform the command. If the command isn't performed in 2 seconds, I do not repeat the command I enforce the command immediately. This is universal as there are no grey areas, everything is black and white and very consistent. When my dog is correct he is praised and rewarded very well. I always try to avoid putting my dog in a situation where he can make mistakes until I am ready to proof. I am fair to my dog and a benevolent dictator and the dog appreciates it.
FWIW,
Jim
Gemini,
Of course my dog gets physical corrections for disobedience. The correction is hard enough to stop the behavior and leave an impression that the behavior is wrong and will not be tolerated. This is only after the dog is trained in a positive, motivational fashion, proofed and knows the expected behavior. My corrections are fair and to the point. I have raised several dogs form pups to SchH 3;s and have been involved in SchH since the 90's. I work a sufficiently hard Police K9 that I raised from a pup. The dog is well trained and knows a lot of commands. When I give a command the dog understands he has 2 seconds to perform the command. If the command isn't performed in 2 seconds, I do not repeat the command I enforce the command immediately. This is universal as there are no grey areas, everything is black and white and very consistent. When my dog is correct he is praised and rewarded very well. I always try to avoid putting my dog in a situation where he can make mistakes until I am ready to proof. I am fair to my dog and a benevolent dictator and the dog appreciates it.
FWIW,
Jim
by Phil Behun on 27 November 2010 - 01:11
Crap,,,,,I forgot. See if you don't continually practice,,things just slip away.
by K9sRule on 27 November 2010 - 01:11
That's okay, Phil...thanks for the chuckle
by ShepherdWoman on 27 November 2010 - 01:11
"I hope the attitude of some of the responders here is not indicative of the personality characteristics of German Shepherd owners."
You will find that with a lot of members here!
A 7 month old shepherd though is going to be outgoing and want to play with the kids. He will be fine! Do you like his temperament?
You will find that with a lot of members here!
A 7 month old shepherd though is going to be outgoing and want to play with the kids. He will be fine! Do you like his temperament?
by sting369 on 27 November 2010 - 02:11
The way I stop jumping up is simply to hold the dogs front paws when they jump up on me. Then maybe i walk around a bit. The dogs don't like the feeling of being trapped. They will gently pull away or struggle jus a bit to get free but you keep holding on a bit longer. The dog learns that jumping up results in a bit of a trap. It works. Try it. No need for the knee. Training is ultimately based on repetition and forming new habits, not on praise or punishment like so many think.
by nonacona60 on 27 November 2010 - 02:11
Shepherd woman wrote:
"I hope the attitude of some of the responders here is not indicative of the personality characteristics of German Shepherd owners."
You will find that with a lot of members here!
Unfortunately for some, that is the case, but thankfully not all GSD owners fall into that category......
To the OPster I say, enjoy your new puppy, and my suggestion to you is to read as many books as you can....There are many books with solving basic problems, (jumping is one of them), for the novice owner or newbie....Much of the advice given here are from those that are far more serious than a pet owner, such as you seem to be....Their advice or ideas are on a different level of training than what you need as a newbie.....Just my Opinion....
"I hope the attitude of some of the responders here is not indicative of the personality characteristics of German Shepherd owners."
You will find that with a lot of members here!
Unfortunately for some, that is the case, but thankfully not all GSD owners fall into that category......
To the OPster I say, enjoy your new puppy, and my suggestion to you is to read as many books as you can....There are many books with solving basic problems, (jumping is one of them), for the novice owner or newbie....Much of the advice given here are from those that are far more serious than a pet owner, such as you seem to be....Their advice or ideas are on a different level of training than what you need as a newbie.....Just my Opinion....
by Slamdunc on 27 November 2010 - 02:11
Sting,
You wrote:
Training is ultimately based on repetition and forming new habits, not on praise or punishment like so many think.
So, I can just repeat exercises without any praise, reward or any compulsion and my dog will learn? I agree dogs learn by repition but they need motivation as well to want to learn and keep repeating the exercise. A dog will not form a beneficial new habit without, repetition, praise and reward. Unless of course you are not expecting very much from the dog and are satisfied with a bored lackluster performance.
JMO,
Jim
You wrote:
Training is ultimately based on repetition and forming new habits, not on praise or punishment like so many think.
So, I can just repeat exercises without any praise, reward or any compulsion and my dog will learn? I agree dogs learn by repition but they need motivation as well to want to learn and keep repeating the exercise. A dog will not form a beneficial new habit without, repetition, praise and reward. Unless of course you are not expecting very much from the dog and are satisfied with a bored lackluster performance.
JMO,
Jim
Contact information Disclaimer Privacy Statement Copyright Information Terms of Service Cookie policy ↑ Back to top