Training the same way as Dogs train each other? - Page 5

For me when people post and the words are for everyone to see and comment on, and yes at times we can type something totally different from or thoughts or not even to be able to type are thoughts..... but your last post, (fawndallas), what does being in a rural community/your box have to do with animal behavior, reading an animals' behavior and training/training methods? Along with the last umpteen posts? Your original posts had to deal with a one year old that had numerous issues either due to her lines, her breeder or her owners/masters. Other issues possibly by geographical location.

Alboe2009 -
I am not sure you are on the correct thread.  My original post:

My training style/ method seems to be a bit unique and I wanted to get other trainers input.

I train my puppies at 2 levels.  
        1.  All of the "human" commands and expectations; and 
        2.  Similar to how a mother dog teaches her puppies; especially when it comes to boundaries and correction.

                  Boundaries (i.e. stay out of the kitchen) are taught with a firm growl followed by "no."
                  Hard corrections are met with a sharp "bite" to the ear.  No, I do not bite the ear, but a fast pinch with "no".  This correction is only done in extreme cases; like teaching not to chew on cords.  I do not use this when the pup is learning a human command.  That receives a leash correction.

It is the 2nd level that I am curious to see if any other trainers use this and how.   Any thoughts? 
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No where in here do I talk about a single dog or a 1 year old dog. 
As for your other post.....  I have no positive response, so nothing will be said. 
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Suffice it to say, Beetree took my post at face value and in the direction I intended it to go and they helped me.  Thank you Beetree.

Thanks fawndallas for the nice words, but I'm sure Alboe2009 knows more about training, than I ever will.

The Koehler Method of Guard Dog Training is the gold standard manual of GSD behavioral modification and training. Read nothing more. Because I said so. No ear pinching though; use rubber hoses, knees and an old fashioned choke collar to punish bad behavior.

Trying to make a point -

Ask 100 sets of parents of 'successful children' what their key ingredients are. Good chance you will get the following:
- 100 different definitions of 'success'.
- 100 different methods to achieve 'success'.
- 100 different sets of households/resources.

There is no right answer to your original question. My opinion is if it works for you and your best friends respond well, then it is right. If we mean and do well, dogs (like our children) tend to be pretty resilient and forgiving of our nuances, styles and quirks. 

fawndallas,

It was late in the night/early morning. I stand corrected for the most part of the thread, indeed for someone else, I aploogize. But for you, some of the comments pertained to this thread, your 2nd and 3rd post. And BEE we all must be like a sponge.....always room for more. ( On that note, I sure miss some of our "GREATS" from when I first joined...........) 

Ok.. no issues.

I had a dog one time that associated the ringing of the telephone with me talking. One morning  the phone started ringing and I didn't want to answer it, just wanted to sleep, heard a thump and then here comes my dog bringing me the telephone into my bedroom. :D He had never shown that he could do that before. I was pretty impressed!  He seemed quite pleased..
Bonnie.

Yea, sometimes the happy cute dogs are a bit too helpful. 

Rose knows that when my alarm goes off, I get up and our day starts.  If I press the snooze button though....Rose adds her personal alarm (right by my bed and ear).

Just sayin, somethings they learn without us" knowingly" doing anything to get the good response.
You know a smart dog when he/she learns to do our behaviours (answering the phone) and we don't even know we taught it to them. 

I believe there is no " one size fits all" training methods.  Most all have a place/time in the teaching/training depending on the type/personality of the individual dog. 

You don't put an e-collar on a pup/dog that has never been taught to sit and tell it to sit and then shock it.. A bit of food held slightly over the head and maybe a gentle push down on the rear will get the sit. 

Some dogs just learn to smile when you show them YOUR teeth! I guess you have to wrinkle your nose like mom does to train that way, plus the little growl.. :D


Good thread.
Bonnie.

fawndallas

Rose is Awsome! :D