NASS 2011 !!!!!... - Page 5

Ladies and Gentlemen,

Negative comments only take away from the NASS, one of the tools that we have to judge the German Shepherd Dog, not the dog.  A lot of hard work goes into both the event and the German Shepherd Dog specimens who participate. It was a great event and a great weekend where many new friends were made and great German Shepherd Dogs participated.

Congratulations Tuareg Vom Bad-Boll.

Lino Calvo

RUGER1 AND KEITH GROSSMAN - HAVE YOU WATCHED THE VIDEO ? IF YES WHY HAVE YOU GONE SILENT? I SAID FROM THE BEGINNING THAT AN APOLOGY WOULD BE FORTHCOMINGIF THE VIDEO SHOWED ME TO BE WRONG, YOU TOOK ME TO TASK AND SAID YOU WERE THERE AND THERE WAS NOTHING TO WHAT I SAID ! PLEASE WATCH THE VIDEO AND TELL ME THE SAME ,THAT IS WHAT IS GREAT ABOUT THE INTERNET IT CAN MAKE A LIAR OUT OF YOU OR PROVE THAT YOU WERE ACCURATE

Marco, I misunderstood what you were asking. I should have read the thread in it's entirety...I was under the impression that you wanted to know about the stick hits ( the rhythmic motion ) being equal and consistent for all dogs. I see now, that what you meant was whether the dog was literally (physically) hit with the stick. After watching the video that was posted on Harry it is obvious that he was not actually hit with the stick at least that is how it appears from that angle....

 I have bite work videos on about 10 males. I am going to take a look and let you know what I find. I will eventually be able to post them, but I am having technical difficulty in getting them uploaded to YouTube.....


Deanna....: )
 

Thank you Ruger 1,  it is my hope that more people will watch the videos of all bitework and see how inconsistent not only the helper work was but that there is a pattern to the BS in this particular show.

As requested.....

Working Males ..#467 Alto Tollhaus Gavin, #479 VA 5 Leido vom Lastal, #486 Mako von der Urbecke, #461 Sam von Cohinor, ......

"RUGER1 AND KEITH GROSSMAN - HAVE YOU WATCHED THE VIDEO ? IF YES WHY HAVE YOU GONE SILENT?"

I know this will come as a novel concept to you but when I get home at night, I actually train with and/or bike my dog rather than waste all of my time on the internet talking about it.

I watched the video and it tells me nothing although when i turn the sound up, it does sound as though the stick makes contact.  Either way, the purpose of the stick hits isn't to hurt the dog but to provide a distraction to see if the dog comes off of the sleeve.  The distraction is there regardless of the severity of the contact.

What is more important in this conversation is that you are making the very serious accusation that the helpers were intentionally showing favoritism to specific dogs.  I was there and saw what I saw with my own two eyes and did not have that impression and I think you're out of line.

There are some good points and comments, speckled with ridiculous insinuations and accusations. First of all, the Sieger Shows are primarily conformation showcases. If you want to see character, courage and nerve go to trials and watch the dogs in a working competition. The helpers in this SS were very fair to every dog. There will always be politics in shows. It's silly to think that will ever go away completely. I am very confident that the front half helper did exactly what he was instructed to do. That is his job, and he takes it very seriously. His character is impeccable. Take the SS for what it is. If you don't like the way it is run, don't enter or don't go. Theresa

"If you want to see character, courage, and nerve, go to working trial"

??????????????? SO, they have been separated.......Thanks for the acknowledgement!!

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 "The purpose of the stick hits isn't to hurt the dog but to provide a distraction to see if the dog comes off of the sleeve.  The distraction is there regardless of the severity of the contact".


 Keith: 

                I,ll agree with the first part of your sentence, The 2nd part is completly off track for a any dog that is breed for a working line dog!.

 So your saying the stick it,s self is viewed as a threat?  
 

I doubt that after years of stick hits the dogs even consider it a threat, Bob.  Like I said, it is simply a distraction to see if the dog is clear headed enough under stress to stay focused on the task at hand.