Whole New Respect for Cesar Millan - Page 5

He's not a good trainer.  No tv trainers are.  Why did he let 2 pits grab onto each others face and have to pry them apart in the first place.

He does silly things all the time.  If you did follow-ups, I would bet you he does NOT get the resutls the heavily edited show tells you.  Have you seen the episode with the GSD, the shock collar, and the cat???

Dog training/re-training requires consistency. Often times, CM (and perhaps a bazillion other dog trainers out there), only get a small part to play in behavioural shifting of a K9. The rest is left up to owners/handlers. I can almost detect (when watching these types of shows) the failed cases and the successful cases....and it most often times has zero to do with the dog. People who are afraid, lacking confidence and leadership AND see-through...WILL most definitely find re-training a dog, one of the most daunting tasks. When  it stops being a challenge, and starts being a problem....you might as well abandon the task. And as we see out in society....many people do abandon the task and the dog. That's why shelters & rescues are swelling at the seams.

I hadn't been able to watch Cesar's show here in Canada until I moved to where I am now, and got satellite TV, so his show is new to me. So far, I'd mainly seen him work with little foo-foo dogs and idiot owners who were letting the little yappers run the household. I rolled my eyes a lot watching these episodes, especially when the dogs were chihuahuas or little fuzzy shitpoos or Jack Russell Terrorists.
This was the first time I'd seen him work with some seriously aggressive large dogs, and damn it, I was pretty impressed!

 Doberdoodle what about the shock collar, the Shepherd, and the cat? Are you talking about how the Shepherd reverted to biting him, and even the owner?  One of the Huskies I had was sort of like that if you corrected her while she saw a cat. In her mind she was going to kill that cat, if you corrected her she would scream, more so in rage though.  Not because I was hurting the dog, in fact I wasn't hurting her with that correction, but it's not the first time I've seen a dog react like that who wanted to kill something else, and were corrected for it. I didn't find the other Husky a home because of that, I found her a home because of my breathing problems and I physically can't keep up with her. A 5 mile run a day should be a minimal requirement with her, which is insane.

And they have had follow ups in a way.  The 100th episode, well over 100 dogs were there from the first few seasons which goes back over a few years.  And I know at certain points in an episode that was well after that one, he brought together a lot of the dogs who were what he calls a "red zone" dog,  and they did a pack walk together.  That included the "dueling Pit Bulls" as well. All dogs did great.  In the dueling Pit Bulls episode Trinity got too excited when she saw her owners, and Cesar suggested to them to correct the dog. I don't think it would have mattered at that point if he corrected the dog, the owners were there and had just arrived. You can't tell me the dog wouldn't be overly excited to see her owners again, and that the bond they have with the dog wouldn't affect how the dog reacted when all they ever had out of that dog was fights.  So if they listened and corrected the dog, no there wouldn't have been that fight. It's funny how people come on here and say things about him that aren't true as well. Like one post in the past someone said he made the owners give up the Pit Bull from that show. He never did that, he suggested that.  It's fact, some people can't handle certain dogs.  They did make it a point to make it work, and kept her.

There are a lot of dog owners who want help with their dogs, but honestly, do you think all of them are going to follow through with all of the advice given to them by him, or any trainer for that matter? I doubt it.  A dog is only rehabilitated if the owner continues and stays consistent.  A lot of people on here will try to say that he wants to make you believe the dog was rehabilitated in an hour. Really.....No, he's just showing them what to do, and he is there for most of the day and shows them what to do to help the dog overcome their problems, rehabilitate them, etc etc.   It's a process that goes on for months, and sometimes years depending on the owner.

kacey
Excellent point.
 
I would also like to ask, do some of you expect that all behavior modification will be success?
Success depends at least 50% on the owner. I like Cesar Milan communication abilities to the owners however indeed he should stress more continual re training as kacey said. Behavioral modification is not one time silver bullet exercise.
Prager Hans
http://www.alpinek9.com

Behavioural modification is like dog training. Consistency & rote are key indicators as to how successful a dog will become. Granted, there are some dogs who will always have issues (as there are some dogs that learn slower than others), and will always have to be monitored (or re-introduces to something). But, that doesn't mean they can't co-exist or become good dogs. From what I've seen in my own world, there are wayyyyy too many people who get dogs/breeds they have absolutely NO CLUE how to handle. Have done no research on what that breed was actually bred for, don't do their homework when it comes to buying from a good breeder vs. a bad breeder,and know zilch about what to do, when problems occur. This is the travesty to the dog. No dog is easy, but as owners/handlers we have to make time and take time to...it's way too easy to walk away. But I truly think, that if people stuck with it, they'd see such amazing successes in their situations.

Just a little anecdote;  My daughter always loved the Bernese Mountain Dog, however ended up getting a English Mastiff instead, (and loves her to death)
Anyhoo, one day a man came to her work place with the most beautifully BMD she  had ever seen, one that she would of grabbed if she could of found one like that, (but she didn't.)
This dog was sooo well behaved, just laid by his side as he chatted.  The dog was 2.5 yrs old.  It had been given to him by a couple that paid $2000 for it, and had to put an additional $2000 in it to remove a sock from his intestines.

I guess the dog during his 'teen years' was a royal pain, and they gave up and gave him away.
His new owner got him at the perfect time, he'd outgrown his nonsense and was the perfect dog.  He didn't have to teach him a thing.

They should of hung in there just a little longer...

I know my female drove me batty but now at 2.5 years she is perfect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXuj3Kss9c4

He's not only a great trainer but a good business man as well. What's the problem with that? So he's good at what he does and makes money at it. Excuse me--but isn't that what's life is all about? And on top of all that he has his own TV show. No wonder some of you have aproblem with that--isn't that what's lifes all about?