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by Bob McKown on 09 November 2010 - 21:11

Phil:

Scream,holler,rant hold your breath till your blue in the face...all you want, Raymond can trial there because he is a member, you choose to not be a member so that is your right. No one is stopping Phil from Training,Teaching,Trialing if so your the cause not the organization. Is the Mali organization you belong to a AWDF club? if so I believe(I could be wrong) you can compete at the WDC I,ll need clarification on that.

by raymond on 09 November 2010 - 21:11

I understand everything you are saying Bob! However one thing remains! I will not allow any organization tell me that I can not be a member of another organization! this last national election cycle should convince everyone that if you make enough waves the boat will rock!Now should one third of usca mambers resign and move to dvg they would still be allowed to participate in a usca event! I believe my supposition is correct? so one third of usca's mambership could jump ship causing it to ride higher in the water and more vulnerable to those waves we made! As a registerd democrat the federal govt whom I pay taxes to has not told me I can not vote or belong to the republican or any other political party! The masonic lodge has not prohibbitted my involvement in the moose or eagles club! The john birch society has not prohibbitted my involvement in the knights of columbus! I'll be damed if I will alow usca to tell me whom and what I can or can not do in my time with my dog! Now trialing I am obligated to abide by the trial rules!

by Bob McKown on 09 November 2010 - 21:11

Ray:

You have all the right in the world to do what you must or feel necessary to do. I,ll just bet that you won,t see a 3rd of the membership leave UScA but thats just my opinion.

by gsdshow on 09 November 2010 - 22:11

While I feel like the increase is a bit much, I still think Bob is right, the opportunities are far more with USA. I will stay so I can title my dogs.

by Phil Behun on 10 November 2010 - 04:11

So what you two are saying is, it doesn't matter what happens to the sport, or the dogs, it's all about what is best for you. As long as you can do what YOU want, that makes it correct. We're kind of selfish aren't we?

by Bob McKown on 10 November 2010 - 12:11

And because Phil doesn,t get HIS way we are all wrong?? the knife cuts both ways there Phil. The votes are in and the majority of membership has voted No not every member got to vote but every club has the option to send a voting member and the ones that did by a legal vote choose. Maybe someday it will be 1 member 1 vote but today it,s not. If you join a UScA club your CLUB gets one vote at the meeting if you didn,t know that you weren,t reading or comprehending well.

The sport will be fine(it will continue to get watered down) and as long as the dogs are under there owners control they will be fine because NO matter what the organization does the dogs get the right training and treatment No matter if it,s Lyle,Johannes, Phil,Bruce ,Tom or Harry at the top and if the political environment effects the training of your dogs or there treatment then Phil you need to find another interest.

Also:

I stand to correct my self, To compete at the WDC you must be a UScA member even if you are a Affiliated AWDF club member(that I,d like to see change). At least I can admit when I,m wrong.

by sueincc on 10 November 2010 - 12:11

I agree with Bob too. I also believe USA is the better organization when it comes to schutzhund, so that's my choice.

by judron55 on 10 November 2010 - 12:11

I agree with Bob too. I also believe USA is the better organization when it comes to schutzhund, so that's my choice.

hear ye...hear ye:-)

by EliDog on 10 November 2010 - 12:11

So explain why USA is better? I mean really how is it better from a sport stand point? We all play by the same set of rules or at least we are supposed to.

Keith Jenkins

by Bob McKown on 10 November 2010 - 13:11

Eli:

Perhaps the proper wording should be It,s a better organization for ourselves, those that choose to stay with UScA feel it,s the better organization. We all will make our own decisions as to what organization to trial with and be a member of none are perfect.

Why I choose UScA, I feel for my self it allows me the most trialing opportunities of trialing my dog close to me. The people i,ve met are all good people, I like the club format, I believe that as far as standing with concern to other world organizations that UScA has the best ability to represent the GSD dog in the U.S.. We don,t need to sign letters to get S.V. judges for our trials and now our own judges are S.V. sanctioned, I believe UScA has the best chance of continuing to advancement of the GSD from the U.S. to other world organizations. Is it perfect No not by a long shot but it will get better and I believe in that.

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