Nicest showline males at stud in USA?

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by Ron Stokes on 15 May 2010 - 02:05

This is me working X-Box on May 2, 2010.

Molly, X-Box is an outstanding male worthy of consideration for anyone interested in improving working ability and conformation. I can't speak to his or any other dog's history at the big shows you mentioned, but I can say from personal experience that X-Box comes fast, can take pressure and hard stick hits, the grip is full, calm, and hard, he is very clear. Charlie has done an excellent job with X-Box.

I worked a 7 month old male out of X-Box the same day and would have bought him on the spot if I had room in my kennel, big drive, full calm bite, super temperament. I have worked an 11 month old female out of X-Box and Faye vom Kirschental and can assure you this is a top female with hardness for work and looks for show.

BTW, I am a long time working dog guy (working line shepherds and a malinois)... I now have a young male out of Jimmy von Arminius 2000 (owned by Jeff Lund in Kentucky) and Faye vom Kirschental (owned by Julie Richards-Mostosky) that is an excellent working and show prospect. Jimmy throws great working ability, I've worked several dogs out of him and can recommend him also. Feel free to contact me anytime.

Ron Stokes

by vomzellmer on 15 May 2010 - 07:05

By shy I mean that when we attempted protection with her, she would not engage the helper. She wouldnt bark at him or go after the sleeve at all. Which was very surprising because she always went after the tug like a demon when I played with her at home. The helper told me she was shy/timid(I took her two different places, same things)but had excellent prey drive. When I first got her she would move away from people she didnt know if they tried to pet her. (shes grown out of this) She has a very stable temperment just is definitely more flight than fight.

by Rikah-haus on 21 September 2010 - 17:09

And this is Ork:

by eichenluft on 21 September 2010 - 17:09

Thanks for sharing the video of Ork - nice dog. I would like the guarding to be stronger, but certainly can't say anything negative about the overall gripwork. Nice dog, now on my <very> short list of show-line dogs to consider for breeding.

molly

by micheleambernick on 21 September 2010 - 20:09

I like Noell vom Suentelstein over at von jagenstadt kennels

by amir on 21 September 2010 - 21:09

Correction about Gittano...

Thnks Judy for your opinion about my dog. Correct is 5 time VA1 instead 4 time. We have wrong text on US Gittano Site about 4 times and we will set right to five.

Every one have his own taste for everything and also for dog. I could not be objective about Gittano but he is US gsd AKC registered with one of the best show scores deserved in several countries, under different German SV judges. Just for reminder...

He was Sieger/First place on National Sieger shows in 5 different countries: Republic of Austria, Republic of Slovenia, Republic of Croatia, Republic of Serbia and Republic of Bosnia. Gittano also take VA5 USA. He wins in working class and become Club Sieger with V1 under SV judge more than 20 times...

• Sieger SVO Austria 2005 - class 9-12 m - 1st place VV1 - judge Mr. Niszler
• Sieger Croatia 2005 - class 12-18 m - 1st place SG1 - judge Mr. Schereer
• Sieger Slovenia 2006 – class 18-24 - 1st place SG1 - judge Mr. Potocnik
• Sieger BiH 2007 – working class - 1st place VA1 - judge Mr. Bratke
• Sieger Balcan 2007 - working class - 1st place VA1 Absolute winner - judge Mr. Brauch
• Sieger Serbia 2007 - working class - 1st place VA1 - judge Mr. Peter Arth
• Sieger Serbia 2008 - working class - 1st place VA1 - judge Mr. Staudinger
• Sieger Aachen 2008 - working class - 1st place in second ring V62 - judge Mr. R. Meyer
• Universal Sieger for 2008. (FCI) - VA1&The best progeny group - judge Mr. Fetten

USA Web: www.k9academyinternational.com
Europe Web: www.weisse-agram.com

by Jacko on 21 September 2010 - 23:09

Jacko, oops he is only 16 weeks and has a lot to prove...being where I am in the Northwest, there is a dog just north of here at Bullinger Shepherds, I know not USA, but a closer drive then about 47 states..

Kevin vom Murrtal

by Klossbruhe on 22 September 2010 - 04:09

If you are in Northern Illinois, you should seriously consider Santo von der Neuen Welt--5 times Regional Conformation Champion. Santo has it all. He is a powerful, medium sized dog with excellent conformation, a lot of pigment, a good mask, correct angulation. Recommended by Rudiger Mai for improving the medium size of dogs, firming backs and strengthening muscles

And, if you are looking for drive, look no further---98 points in protection under a SV judge who taught at the West phalian Police Academy for 30 years. Those who have his puppies will confirm that they are high drive dogs and excellent for schutzhund. And, of course, he brings first rate conformation which can be seen in progeny such as his daughter Heska von der Neuen Welt, SchH3, KKL1 and 2009 Regional Conformation Siegerin.

You can read Santo's Koer report on this database and watch a video of his protection work at the 2007 NASS as well as other videos of his protection work at this site http://www.chicagoschutzhund.com/at-stud.htm

by VonIsengard on 22 September 2010 - 12:09

I'll add to Klossbruhe's post. Santo brings alternative lines, and having trained several of his progeny (from several bitches) myself they all alligators on a tug with great work ethic and strong character. Santo's mother Xenia is a great producer of strong temperment, another litter of hers produced the working police K9 Bravo, Des Plaines, IL.

When I bred to Santo a notable improvement he brought to my female was dryness, firmer elbows, and correct medium size. One pup was AKC tracking certified at six months and as I recall got her TD at barely a year, is now VCD1. I recently got back my other favorite female from that litter (V, SchH1, KKL1) and she wants to go go go, all the time.

IMO the database photo does him no justice. You have to meet him to appreciate him.

by Dawn G. Bonome on 23 September 2010 - 11:09

I would have to say Kaluv v Whirlingthunder. Not only is he have GREAT working dog, but he produces beautiful puppies! He is located in Kansas and Lida Fleury is the breeder.

Dawn B.

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