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by Two Moons on 28 April 2010 - 05:04
Me too,
gonna call it a night,
I've done enough damage here...lol
tomorrow's a new day.
gonna call it a night,
I've done enough damage here...lol
tomorrow's a new day.
by OGBS on 29 April 2010 - 04:04
Tess,
Sorry that you can't let this go, but, you are incorrect on this issue.
PETA does not support TNR programs, just as Moons doesn't.
The reason I pointed it out is that I find Moons' hipocrisy amusing.
He hates PETA and HSUS (rightfully so), but, he shares many of their views.
It's funny and I think he knows it, too. If he was bothered by it he would say so. It's just part of a conversation.
I find it similar to many people I encounter here living in Chicago.
They are unbelievably conservative in all of their views, gun owners, anti-abortion, against immigration and welfare, you name it, but, they are in a union so they vote Democratic because they have been told to for 80 years! Kind of stupid isn't it???
The other thing that I would like to point for those who call cats domestic.
They are domestic, but, they are also wild and the only animal on earth that is classified as both simultaneously.
GSD Travels,
Have you ladies contacted most of the rescues around there?
There has got be someone willing to take Heidi in.
Sorry that you can't let this go, but, you are incorrect on this issue.
PETA does not support TNR programs, just as Moons doesn't.
The reason I pointed it out is that I find Moons' hipocrisy amusing.
He hates PETA and HSUS (rightfully so), but, he shares many of their views.
It's funny and I think he knows it, too. If he was bothered by it he would say so. It's just part of a conversation.
I find it similar to many people I encounter here living in Chicago.
They are unbelievably conservative in all of their views, gun owners, anti-abortion, against immigration and welfare, you name it, but, they are in a union so they vote Democratic because they have been told to for 80 years! Kind of stupid isn't it???
The other thing that I would like to point for those who call cats domestic.
They are domestic, but, they are also wild and the only animal on earth that is classified as both simultaneously.
GSD Travels,
Have you ladies contacted most of the rescues around there?
There has got be someone willing to take Heidi in.
by GSDtravels on 29 April 2010 - 09:04
I have gotten a couple of inquiries and hopefully, I'll be hearing one of them panned out. Keep your fingers crossed and I'll let you know as soon as I hear anything.
by TessJ10 on 29 April 2010 - 12:04
"Sorry that you can't let this go, but, you are incorrect on this issue.
PETA does not support TNR programs, just as Moons doesn't."
Correct that PETA does not support TNR programs, but PETA also wants all domestic animals to cease to exist and be totally returned to the wild. Moons stated the opposite of PETA, that it was cruel to return the cats to the wild. So, tell me, how do you extrapolate from opposing TNR (which many people do) to you making the statement that he is a hypocrite and "shares many of their views"? Many? List them, please.
MANY people do not support TNR. Cats, neutered or not, have decimated wild bird populations, some to the point of extinction, and these populations are integral in insect control, to name just one area.
Release neutered cats back to the wild "fills a niche" so other cats won't move in? So where do the "other cats" go? They simply expand the area full of feral cats by going somewhere else, thereby killing more birds, killing more wild mice, shrews, voles, etc., which decreases the food supply for all the raptors and foxes. The naïveté of the TNR people amazes me sometimes. Yes, it's an unpleasant problem, but it's about more than the cats.
PETA does not support TNR programs, just as Moons doesn't."
Correct that PETA does not support TNR programs, but PETA also wants all domestic animals to cease to exist and be totally returned to the wild. Moons stated the opposite of PETA, that it was cruel to return the cats to the wild. So, tell me, how do you extrapolate from opposing TNR (which many people do) to you making the statement that he is a hypocrite and "shares many of their views"? Many? List them, please.
MANY people do not support TNR. Cats, neutered or not, have decimated wild bird populations, some to the point of extinction, and these populations are integral in insect control, to name just one area.
Release neutered cats back to the wild "fills a niche" so other cats won't move in? So where do the "other cats" go? They simply expand the area full of feral cats by going somewhere else, thereby killing more birds, killing more wild mice, shrews, voles, etc., which decreases the food supply for all the raptors and foxes. The naïveté of the TNR people amazes me sometimes. Yes, it's an unpleasant problem, but it's about more than the cats.
by beetree on 29 April 2010 - 14:04
No offense to you Tess, but what I think is niave is to think cats that live in the wild will ever be eliminated. Wouldn't it be better if they are not reproducing during their existance? They are here to stay, like a lot of other animals, plants and insects that have taken up a niche and proceed to dominate over the original occupants. The saying "Let the cat out of the bag", comes to my mind because its way too late,now, they're never going back into that bag.
by Uglydog on 29 April 2010 - 14:04
There should be a Rescue on this board, a centralized place for concerned GSD owners and prospects to meet and interact...
Maybe based on Regions.
In this economy, you are going to see alot of dogs put up.
Maybe based on Regions.
In this economy, you are going to see alot of dogs put up.
by TessJ10 on 29 April 2010 - 14:04
Who said they will ever be eliminated?
by BabyEagle4U on 29 April 2010 - 15:04
For what it's worth, I share the view I think PETA has to set all the caged Bald, Golden and White Tail Eagles in captivity and zoo's free. Every last one of them.
These birds are born to fly 13,000 to 16,000 feet above sea level and fly speeds of 45 plus. They cannot do this is a 64' x 100' cage. I think it's cruel for the bird of Freedom to be held as a slave for profits. JMO.
Don't get me started. lol
These birds are born to fly 13,000 to 16,000 feet above sea level and fly speeds of 45 plus. They cannot do this is a 64' x 100' cage. I think it's cruel for the bird of Freedom to be held as a slave for profits. JMO.
Don't get me started. lol
by GSDtravels on 29 April 2010 - 16:04
It looks like Heidi will be taken care of, we've had an offer from a board member.
You may now continue with the feral cat/PETA/eagle discussion. Thanks for keeping this bumped!
by Judy P on 29 April 2010 - 16:04
We are located in West MIchigan and not only train, own and occasionally breed Malinois we also run a rescue organization. Currently we have a young male Malinois and a 3 yr old GSD bitch with her 10 puppies. Faith was found living in a cave in Kentucky where she gave birth to her pups fortunately someone cared enough to feed her and assist with her rescue. We are always open to help GSD's and Mals in need. Please feel free to pm or email me if you know of a dog in need.
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