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by Davren on 08 March 2010 - 23:03
I am so sorry, Steph. What a tough decision you had to make.
by mobjack on 09 March 2010 - 00:03
Damn. Sorry Steph. I know that was a very hard decision to make. I really wish you didn't have to make them.
by ShelleyR on 09 March 2010 - 02:03
I know it broke your heart Steph, but you can't save them all. Better where he is than with someone who could not handle him.
by Bhaugh on 09 March 2010 - 04:03
SO SORRY TO HEAR ABOUT THE DOG. Ive been in this situation and its really hard when you can see hope but realize that you cant take the chance. If it makes you feel any better I did take the chance on a Neo mastiff that I took in and the dog came back to me. I ended up puting him down after all the work I put into him. He he decided that he didnt like my son and went after him more than once. It broke my heart that I had to do it but it was the right decision.
Save the ones you can and pray for the ones you cant.
Save the ones you can and pray for the ones you cant.
by Krazy Bout K9s on 09 March 2010 - 13:03
In answer to the emails I got from the people that didn't think I should have put him down. This is what I wrote to them...
"I am sorry, But he tried to literally eat my personal GSD that I train the dog agressive dogs with, this weekend, my Beau is totally non- threatening and won't fight. So there was no reason to take a chance on someone or someone else's dog getting hurt...instead of getting better with the dog conditioning he was getting worse...
He was so fence/barrier aggressive anyone walking their dog or my horses on the other side of the fence he would literally go nuts...he couldn't be trusted. I had to keep him on a cable inside of the kennel because he was trying to eat the kennel apart. He bent the chain link beyond repair. He also tore up the inside of my topper and destroyed all the plastic tubs I keep leashes in. Tore the carpeting off the inside of my topper ceiling and walls...that is no life for a dog...
I am sorry but I can't save them all and have had to turn down lots of dogs that do not have behavioral problems...while he was here and trying in the way I could to work with him.
I also have spent thousands upon thousands of dollars on cancer treatment and other ailments for my rescue dogs...and never recouped it...
Sincerely, Stephanie"
People there are way too many good dogs out there, to save, to take a chance on another GOOD dog getting killed, because some owner that bought a puppy didn't properly train their dog...it saddens me to no end...I bawled and bawled when he went down...he was such a beautiful dog that should not have ended up where he did. The person that turned him into rescue that found him wandering from the original owner, had trouble with him also. The dog ate cables in the back of their truck...
I am the last resort for these dogs...no one else would take him, I did and tried and I feel so terrible about not being able to "FIX" him...guess I just am not as good as I thought I was....
No one here or anywhere else is going to fix these problems with the dogs, it comes from owner awareness and people owning German Shepherds that shouldn't have them. I turn down people everyday that just want a GSD to protect them, and no nothing about them...they won't take the time to train them. Just want something out in there back yard to scare people off, and when the dog does what they want, then he is too aggressive...
I know, you can't fix stupid. and I am just so tired of all these dogs out there...hoping I could make a difference, but I am wearing out...it just hurts too much...probably not making much sense here, but I am still not dealing with what had to happen to him yet...
Steph
"I am sorry, But he tried to literally eat my personal GSD that I train the dog agressive dogs with, this weekend, my Beau is totally non- threatening and won't fight. So there was no reason to take a chance on someone or someone else's dog getting hurt...instead of getting better with the dog conditioning he was getting worse...
He was so fence/barrier aggressive anyone walking their dog or my horses on the other side of the fence he would literally go nuts...he couldn't be trusted. I had to keep him on a cable inside of the kennel because he was trying to eat the kennel apart. He bent the chain link beyond repair. He also tore up the inside of my topper and destroyed all the plastic tubs I keep leashes in. Tore the carpeting off the inside of my topper ceiling and walls...that is no life for a dog...
I am sorry but I can't save them all and have had to turn down lots of dogs that do not have behavioral problems...while he was here and trying in the way I could to work with him.
I also have spent thousands upon thousands of dollars on cancer treatment and other ailments for my rescue dogs...and never recouped it...
Sincerely, Stephanie"
People there are way too many good dogs out there, to save, to take a chance on another GOOD dog getting killed, because some owner that bought a puppy didn't properly train their dog...it saddens me to no end...I bawled and bawled when he went down...he was such a beautiful dog that should not have ended up where he did. The person that turned him into rescue that found him wandering from the original owner, had trouble with him also. The dog ate cables in the back of their truck...
I am the last resort for these dogs...no one else would take him, I did and tried and I feel so terrible about not being able to "FIX" him...guess I just am not as good as I thought I was....
No one here or anywhere else is going to fix these problems with the dogs, it comes from owner awareness and people owning German Shepherds that shouldn't have them. I turn down people everyday that just want a GSD to protect them, and no nothing about them...they won't take the time to train them. Just want something out in there back yard to scare people off, and when the dog does what they want, then he is too aggressive...
I know, you can't fix stupid. and I am just so tired of all these dogs out there...hoping I could make a difference, but I am wearing out...it just hurts too much...probably not making much sense here, but I am still not dealing with what had to happen to him yet...
Steph
by DebiSue on 09 March 2010 - 13:03
Steph,
You don't have to explain yourself to anyone who emails you to tell you that you shouldn't have put him down. Where were they when you needed them? They have a lot of nerve questioning your decision. If they think they know so damn much about it why were they not at your door taking this dog off your hands? Where are they now with their hands full of donations to your rescue? Probably a bunch of bleeding hearts that contribute more to the problem than the solution by "letting a dog be a dog" rather than training it. We are all sorry that it came to this. I know that you always give your best effort and sometimes it will never be enough. You cannot save them all, no matter how it breaks your heart. You are not the problem sweetheart. Never for a moment doubt that what you do. You have saved so very many dogs that would have otherwise been put down for no good reason. Sometimes you have to see the ugly to appreciate the beautiful. You do good work, kiddo. Several of us appreciate your efforts and applaud you and the work you do. You have plenty of happy endings in your future. Hang in there sweetie! June is coming!!
Deb
You don't have to explain yourself to anyone who emails you to tell you that you shouldn't have put him down. Where were they when you needed them? They have a lot of nerve questioning your decision. If they think they know so damn much about it why were they not at your door taking this dog off your hands? Where are they now with their hands full of donations to your rescue? Probably a bunch of bleeding hearts that contribute more to the problem than the solution by "letting a dog be a dog" rather than training it. We are all sorry that it came to this. I know that you always give your best effort and sometimes it will never be enough. You cannot save them all, no matter how it breaks your heart. You are not the problem sweetheart. Never for a moment doubt that what you do. You have saved so very many dogs that would have otherwise been put down for no good reason. Sometimes you have to see the ugly to appreciate the beautiful. You do good work, kiddo. Several of us appreciate your efforts and applaud you and the work you do. You have plenty of happy endings in your future. Hang in there sweetie! June is coming!!
Deb
by yoshy on 09 March 2010 - 13:03
Krazy,
I didnt read the whole thread but there is a line you have to draw in the sand sometimes. You know as well as anyone Im all for taking the problem children in and rehabilitating them and giving them some direction. However some are beyond repairation and re-introducing them into normal homes.
I have one now I am nearly going to draw the line on. He was let go for too many years and has lost his mind. It took 4 months to get him to stop spinning around everything in my yard till he dropped even with work every day. He is still very unstable. and strictly hands off to anyone else. He will come up the leash anytime he feels frusterated or confused. He will destroy standard wire crates, dig until he rippes his pads off. He has so many insecurities and nerve issues he will bite you for just coming into his space. So I know what you feel. I hate to do it but he may have to go down as well if we dont make some significant progress in the coming months. He will be the 1st I havent been able to successfully rehab. and it tears at me quite a bit.
So until those whom criticize take in 10-15 dogs a year for rehab. where the scars these dogs leave, accept the cost of what they destroy, the danger to the family and responsibility attached to the problems dogs not to mention the lost sleep and time they take. Re-routing your whole way of life to accomodate the problem children. Then criticise the decision to euthanize a dog.
I didnt read the whole thread but there is a line you have to draw in the sand sometimes. You know as well as anyone Im all for taking the problem children in and rehabilitating them and giving them some direction. However some are beyond repairation and re-introducing them into normal homes.
I have one now I am nearly going to draw the line on. He was let go for too many years and has lost his mind. It took 4 months to get him to stop spinning around everything in my yard till he dropped even with work every day. He is still very unstable. and strictly hands off to anyone else. He will come up the leash anytime he feels frusterated or confused. He will destroy standard wire crates, dig until he rippes his pads off. He has so many insecurities and nerve issues he will bite you for just coming into his space. So I know what you feel. I hate to do it but he may have to go down as well if we dont make some significant progress in the coming months. He will be the 1st I havent been able to successfully rehab. and it tears at me quite a bit.
So until those whom criticize take in 10-15 dogs a year for rehab. where the scars these dogs leave, accept the cost of what they destroy, the danger to the family and responsibility attached to the problems dogs not to mention the lost sleep and time they take. Re-routing your whole way of life to accomodate the problem children. Then criticise the decision to euthanize a dog.
by malshep on 09 March 2010 - 15:03
Steph, I am so sorry for the emotions this has caused you , but they all cannot be fixed as you know. As you said there are so many out there, this dog was dangerous and had a screw loose somewhere. But you where there with him, and he did not pass alone. He is less stressed now, very happy, and very secure in the environment he is in. Keep up the good work sweetie.
Always,
Cee
Always,
Cee
by HBFanatic on 09 March 2010 - 15:03
Steph, my heart goes out to you. You are a very strong woman with a huge heart and so much on your plate.
It is not up to you to save them all. You know how many nice ones can't be helped for one that will always be a risk.
As of this year I am taking no more rescues until the ones that I have are placed. It is too hard.
And there is always another one that pulls on the heart. But so do our current ones and our personal dogs.
Hang in there and never feel bad to say no!
It is not up to you to save them all. You know how many nice ones can't be helped for one that will always be a risk.
As of this year I am taking no more rescues until the ones that I have are placed. It is too hard.
And there is always another one that pulls on the heart. But so do our current ones and our personal dogs.
Hang in there and never feel bad to say no!
by VomMarischal on 09 March 2010 - 16:03
I find it difficult to believe that people out there who know who you are and what you do would have the GALL to criticize your decision. Mighty easy from the armchair, isn't it? Those people have no sensitivity or manners, or even common sense--PMing you and giving you a ration of...what morons.
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