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by gsdsrgr8 on 09 December 2009 - 15:12

Thank you guys and girls for all of your input on this topic. It has been interesting to read and i will definately give it a go with my dogs.

Thanks Alan.

by VomMarischal on 09 December 2009 - 16:12

gsd4life, do you worm your dogs every 3 months just on general principles, or do you get fecals done first? ? I have NEVER wormed my dogs. Do you live in an area that is especially...wormy? My dogs never even get tape worms...but then, since switching to raw 5 years ago, I haven't seen one flea, either. And this town rarely freezes and has a rep for being really flea-bitten.

Grapes: I have 4 grapevines in my yard. The dogs pick up a few, but not many because of course the chickens get them first. No ill effects. What my dogs pig out on is plums from my tree. For weeks they poop nothing but pits. There is NOTHING I can do about it short of cutting down the tree...I try to keep the damn windfalls rounded up, but they do fall at will. So far, nobody has suffered from it.

by snajper69 on 09 December 2009 - 16:12

I do not warm my dogs unless it needs to be done as well. I just don't see point to it.

by sueincc on 09 December 2009 - 17:12

I believe both RAW and home cooked diets are gaining more and more acceptance within the veterinarian community, especially since the nightmare of the melanin dog food recalls. Now there are many pet food manufactures jumping on the RAW diet gravy train too. I feed RAW, my own prepared like many others here, though I am not as hard core as some, I don't raise or butcher my own meat. My dog's regular veterinarian, who used to think it was crazy to feed a RAW or home cooked diet, now has no problem with his clients who feed a RAW or home cooked diet, because it turns out he hasn't seen an increase in dogs with dietary deficiency issues, perforated bowels, bacterial infections, etc., in dogs that are fed RAW as opposed to dogs fed commercial diets, nor have his colleagues that he has spoken to about RAW and home cooked diets. He does recommend people research it so they don't think you can toss out some hamburger daily and think that's all there is to it, he worries about those people's dogs. I also know a world renown veterinarian oncologist who feeds her own dogs and cats RAW, and also advocates either a RAW or home cooked diet for her patients.

by Oskar1 on 09 December 2009 - 21:12

We are one bunch ! Happy to see that happen !
Keith, I admire your posts, they contain a vast knowledge, and we should strive to learn from the "oldtimers", many benefits coming from them. On the other hand, we "newcomers" also have the advantage to know what we talk about.

You know what, together, nobody can beat us !

All the best

Ulli

by VomMarischal on 09 December 2009 - 22:12

If none of us TRY the new way, there will NEVER be a new body of knowledge. And after 5 years of studying this, I don't believe I'm taking careless risks with my dogs' health. Neither does my vet.

It takes all of us, all viewpoints, to count as an information bank whether the individual preference is raw, homecooked, or quality commercial. Ten years ago we knew very little!

PS. Sueincc, nice pun.......!

by ShelleyR on 09 December 2009 - 22:12

I didn't say I am feeding raw right now. Think of me as "in transit, long term."
The main reason T isn't on the raw chicken diet is that the chickens here are too fast for him.
He looks darned good on TOTW Salmon Formula.
...AND, he seems to have plenty of the energy he needs to dream about killing the non-canid farm population here!

SS

by CrysBuck25 on 10 December 2009 - 04:12

Keith seems very reluctant to even consider the possibility that the dogs here that are super healthy eating raw are that way because of their diets. if you don't believe that commercially prepared diets can cause issues, then what causes some GSD's to have such incredibly bad allergies? What's causing all the health problems? Is it the vaccines?

I'd guess you'll say no to that, too, because you probably think that vaccines are wonderful things, too.

Science has it's place in things, but part of science is observing, observing the dogs. The dogs pictured above look extraordinary, and they eat raw. Many dogs look awesome on kibbles, as well.

It comes back to feeding what keeps them healthy, monitoring condition and coat and just keeping your eyes open and your mind open. Commercially produced kibble is all about the profit, not the dogs, as snajper said. I tend to view with some suspicion any product touted as "wonderful" when it's being "Sold". One must look at the monetary aspect of it as well as the quality.

Just my opinion, but raw makes sense to me. I just don't have the ability to feed raw right now, or I would be doing it, for sure. Dogs love it, and they do very well on it.

Crys

by gsdforlife on 10 December 2009 - 05:12

VomMarischal,
I doing that just on principles for all type of worms unless heart worm ( once a monht). And i do not fecal exam.I think ,when i feed raw ,my dogs have more chance to get worms,maybe i am worry too much.
And i am happy when i see my dogs healthy.
Thanks for asking,
GSDforlife.

by VomMarischal on 10 December 2009 - 12:12

I think you should do a fecal check once or twice, because it's my experience that raw fed dogs get worms WAY less. No real point in poisoning them for nothing.....it's almost like worms don't like an environment of meat. I think they prefer kibble! Wish I could find some data on that, though.

Here's something creepy for ya.....

The following is about a human's 20 year experience with eating only raw meats and other foods....

What about parasites?

I have not seen a direct correlation between eating raw meat and having parasites. It is believed by every gastrologist and registered nurse with whom I have spoken that hydrochloric acid in the stomach kills parasites and harmful bacteria before they can enter the system. As I stated earlier, my vagus nerve was severed to eliminate hydrochloric acid from my stomach. Science and medicine put me in the category of people in danger of severe illness and bacteria invasion. Once I ate pinworm-infested salmon 10 weeks afterward and did not prove positive for any kind of intestinal parasite. I have eaten raw meats since 1976 and have never suffered parasites.

But parasites are not the problem. Parasites live on decaying tissue. Blaming parasites is the same as blaming vultures, crows and worms for the dead and decaying carcass that they find and eat. They eat the dead and decaying creature to prevent the atmosphere from becoming a toxic cesspool.

Parasites and some forms of bacteria have the same sort of job in the human body. It is a detoxification process. If an individual eats healthy raw fats and proteins while parasites and bacteria do their cleansing jobs, his or her body will eliminate the toxins made less toxic by the parasites and/or bacteria and regenerate cells to heal properly.

Food and chemicals that cause destruction and decay in the body make us susceptible to parasites and bacterial detoxifications. It's better to eliminate the destructive food and chemicals that make parasitic and bacterial detoxification necessary.

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