worik stacked 11mths - Page 5

Yes, that is EXACTLY it. And annamay gets to interpret it differently too. There's no explaining the differences in what individuals see when all of them look at the same thing. Think of art; we all take it in differently even though the canvas doesn't change.

I for one prefer the working dog look. But you do not, which does NOT mean that annamay's dog is inferior, just different from your taste in dogs. 

By the way, it's worth noting that GSDs, even my working lines, look really weird when you have a wolf in the house. Then you get to see a dog that really WAS designed with work in mind.  All this talk about needing the extra angulation so the dogs can cover ground? EEFUS BEEFUS. I know first hand what a dog looks like that can cover some SERIOUS ground, and all the show lines people I know would say he is straight up and down.

less than average??? wow,
 point out what is wrong with him???
 he JUST turned a year.
to me i see a very GOOD quality bred WORKING dog.
but i know i'm kennel blind,

and don't forget he isn't PROFESSIONALLY STACKED for you MR JUDGE!!!

anyone on the island who would like to help me stack my dog to prove the quality that he does have??

i think he looks identical to his grandfather pluto.
and i really don't care he is now "MY" pet.
i have nothing to PROVE, i asked for an opinion not a lynching
 otherwise i would be in the "sport" but i choose to just work him in P.P. which is more then most do.
he is here to be my protector, which he will do.

why don't you come and watch him do some bitework. where are you located, i can come to you.

 leave MY dog out of YOUR typing please!!!!!

i just ate and would like to keep my food down. 

Well, as long as you have nothing else to say on the matter, I guess I can stick my neck out and say that GUESS WHAT? You do NOT have the last word on what German shepherds should look like. 

yea, you are finally done with me?? thank you. i can have a good day now.

Okay, two questions. 1). WHY come on this board and ask for opnions on a dog's conformation and structure, rather than take the dog to knowledgeable show folks (or a show judges!) in person. Then, the issue with posing for a photo is non-existent. I have found simply asking a conformation-oriented person to critique the dog, in person, to be very helpful. 2). I do remember "Harley". Bazza, please explain why you believe this annamay is Harley. PM if you like. I am simply curious.

Bazza. You have in the past respected my posts so read this carefully and try to absorb it.

I got my first GSD from actual german, titled lines in 2000. He was 3/4 showline and 1/4 working line. I bought him because both parents were titled, he was reasonably priced, and the breeder had a good reputation, in fact, a local K9 was half brother to mine. I bought him to learn on.

At the time, I did a lot of researching and asked questions online. Sure, I posted pics and asked what people thought. I'm sure some people thought "bleh" and moved on. I was fortunate enough to never have him torn apart. He was probably an SG dog. But I did not rely soley on webboards to learn. I also went to trials, shows- I bought a catalog at every event and took tons of notes, listening avidly to every critique. I showed my dog to breeders who bred VA-V stock knew what a quality GSD should look like.  I was told that with good training, a very good handler, and the right judge he "might" make a V. I had already decided by then he was not breed quality and after I was done with his protection and/or schutzhund training I would probably neuter him. Never got the chance as he died suddenly at 2.

My next dog I took from an 8 week old puppy to upper V at the NASS. She embodies the breed standard. My other female I bought next was multiple times VP1. I have morphed from a a curious, uninformed newbie to someone with a decent amount knowledge for only being seriously in the breed for 10 years. I have a clear vision of the kinds of dogs I want to produce and I have committed to always staying within the breed standard and thus far I have done so.

The point is, Bazza, these "pet" owners you so strongly detest are here to learn. You do not know where there journey with the GSD may lead them. I for one remember strongly those who were rude or nasty to me back when I didn't know a croup from a pastern and I'm afraid I have a long memory for grudges. Be cruel to someone now...be embarrased in 10 or 20 years when that person makes something of themselves in the GSD world! 

Good post KCzaja, I'm glad to see some sanity and common sense prevails for some