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by Slamdunc on 24 April 2009 - 22:04
I have never met a violent pot smoker.... Well, I have met many violent pot smokers. You appear to be in the same age group as me, not as old as two moons though. I went to High School in the 70's and college in the 80's. Things are way different than they used to be. I can assure you of that. Hippies are not the ones smoking weed these days preaching happness and love. Every crack dealer, heroin dealer, meth etc. uses pot also. A large percentage of people smoking weed use other drugs and alcohol as well.
Sorry about your partner man, but I would bet that the person who shot him was doing more than just marijuana
No, he was high on exotic weed that he'd grown in his grow op. What you don't understand is that drugs and guns go together. He was armed to protect his "stash."
No doubt Marijuana has a lot of legitimate uses. Medical Marijuana is a great treatment for many ailments and offers relief to many sick people. But till it's legal it ends there.
FWIW
Jim
by Uber Land on 24 April 2009 - 23:04
Pot today is much stronger than it was years ago. Exotic weed is very potent and often smoked with crack .
Every crack dealer, heroin dealer, meth etc. uses pot also. A large percentage of people smoking weed use other drugs and alcohol as well.
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So is it the pot making them violent? or the other drugs they are on? I don't believe regular old marijuana, or even the stronger stuff with more potent THC makes people this violent. its the other stuff they are using that does. and I am not an aging hippie, I haven't reached 30 yet
where are you located? you must be in a major city area. the biggest issue we have in my area (North Texas, about 30 minutes outside DFW) is meth. These people rarely if ever smoke pot. People out here find it more acceptable to sell prescription drugs than they do to smoke pot.
by Slamdunc on 24 April 2009 - 23:04
how much money does law inforcement spend a year arresting people just for pot? what percentage of the prison pop. is there strictly for minor drug violations such as pot? how much of their time and money could be spent chasing after more dangerous people such as rapist or murders?
We really don't spend a lot of money aresting people for weed, it's not that high a priority in the scheme of things. To catch someone with weed all you really need to do is make 4 or 5 traffic stops. One of those stops will have a vehicle with dope in it. If you can spot the indicators and talk to people it's quite easy. Very few people in the prisons in Viriginia are there for smoking weed. Here it is the equivalet of driving with a suspended license. FIrst offenders get no jail time and it is expunged from their record after a year. Second and third offenses you might get a $100 fine. After 3 convictions you might get 10 days or a Sat / Sun work program. Really, it is a slap on the wrist.
A large percentage of a Police Dept's time, resources and budget are directed towards preventing crime, enhancing the citizens quality of life and solving crimes. I can tell you that we have an excellent Criminal Investigation Section with 50 full time Detectives. Our Vice and Narcotics Division has a quarter of that. Does that answer your question as to how time and resources are allocated? I am in an understaffed PD of 375 officers that sould be 420 strong. Our PD is no different than most other PD's across the country.
We can't find good people to hire because the pay and hours stink and most people can't pass the battery of tests required. Not too mention our city council is cutting our salaries and their is no overtime due to the economy. I love my job, I'd really hate it if I had to do it for the money. Lucky for me it's a second career and I have owned my own businesses for the past 20 years. If you become a cop because you need a job it is not the greatest job.
Am I still the one who can't see the forest fom the trees?
Jim
by Uber Land on 24 April 2009 - 23:04
I am not trying to be argumentative, really.
but, you said make 4 or 5 stops and you will find a car containing dope. thats a large percentage of the population. the only thing I question is you talk about them being violent. with this large percentage of the population with dope, what # of that could be considered violent? how many of these cars pulled over containing dope are the drivers violent? It just sounds like you are making people arrested for pot to be violent offenders. I just can't put pot and things like PCP, meth, coke, crack, heroine, ect in the same category
I am not saying it is ok for them to be driving under the influence of anything.
by Red Sable on 25 April 2009 - 00:04
Pot in teenagers has been proven to increase testicular cancer. I have no use for it or alcohol.
by Uber Land on 25 April 2009 - 00:04
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US Policy on Drugs Driven by the Drug War, the U.S. prison population is six to ten times as high as most Western European nations. The United States is a close second only to Russia in its rate of incarceration per 100,000 people. In 2000, more than 734,000 people were arrested in this country for marijuana-related offenses alone. The US war on drugs places great emphasis on arresting people for smoking marijuana. Since 1990, nearly 5.9 million Americans have been arrested on marijuana charges, a greater number than the entire populations of Alaska, Delaware, the District of Columbia, Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Vermont and Wyoming combined. In 2000, state and local law enforcement arrested 734,498 people for marijuana violations. This is an increase of 800 percent since 1980, and is the highest ever recorded by the FBI. by Uber Land on 25 April 2009 - 00:04 ALL ILLEGAL DRUGS ..........15,000 Like any substance, marijuana can be abused. The most common problem attributed to marijuana is frequent overuse, which can induce lethargic behaviour, but does not cause serious health problems. Marijuana can cause short-term memory loss, but only while under the influence. Marijuana does not impair long-term memory. Marijuana does not lead to harder drugs. Marijuana does not cause brain damage, genetic damage, or damage the immune system. Unlike alcohol, marijuana does not kill brain cells or induce violent behaviour. Continuous long-term smoking of marijuana can cause bronchitis, but the chance of contracting bronchitis from casual marijuana smoking is minuscule. Respiratory health hazards can be totally eliminated by consuming marijuana via non-smoking methods, i.e., ingesting marijuana via baked foods, tincture, or vaporizer. by Uber Land on 25 April 2009 - 00:04 Enforcing marijuana prohibition costs taxpayers an estimated $10 billion annually and results in the arrest of more than 872,000 individuals per year -- far more than the total number of arrestees for all violent crimes combined, including murder, rape, robbery and aggravated assault.
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