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by fda on 09 March 2009 - 13:03
Fotos of Conadrew Lesko posted at the request of his owners.
No roach , a sound solid male of the correct type.
Congratulations on his 2nd CC , I hope his 3rd comes very soon.
No roach , a sound solid male of the correct type.
Congratulations on his 2nd CC , I hope his 3rd comes very soon.
by tigermouse on 09 March 2009 - 13:03
I really enjoyed watching him in the ring.
stunning male with real presence .
stunning male with real presence .
by myfanwy on 09 March 2009 - 13:03
HI ALL,
I have been reading your comment and would just like to add my experiance day at Crufts,
I was watching the classes and noticed a young dog which is not my type but was well turned out and i could see the young owner had taken a lot of trouble with the dogs training and appearance,
I took the time to talk to the young lady and found it was her mother dog and she had been showing it for 5 years and this was the first time she had qualified and was very proud of her dog, I did not feel it was my place to make any nasty comments regarding the dog, But did express my opinion on how well she had groomed and how healthy the dog was.
Consider how she would have felt had she talked to some people who feel they should express their opinion without any thought to other peoples feeling.
I have been reading your comment and would just like to add my experiance day at Crufts,
I was watching the classes and noticed a young dog which is not my type but was well turned out and i could see the young owner had taken a lot of trouble with the dogs training and appearance,
I took the time to talk to the young lady and found it was her mother dog and she had been showing it for 5 years and this was the first time she had qualified and was very proud of her dog, I did not feel it was my place to make any nasty comments regarding the dog, But did express my opinion on how well she had groomed and how healthy the dog was.
Consider how she would have felt had she talked to some people who feel they should express their opinion without any thought to other peoples feeling.
by Penny on 09 March 2009 - 13:03
First things first - Georgehopwood - you are totally wrong about the type and quality of the male CC winner. I am biased..... I have his grandsire....... who is a Champion ....... He sired Lesko`s mother who became a Champion ..... I gave him his first CC in July ........ I love the dog - I have nothing to breed to him at present without too close for comfort breeding, but when I have I shall use the dog.
Thats my opinion..... now for the opinion of. Geogehopwood
He thinks he was a disgrace
A disgrace is an animal that is not sound, in movement or mind. He is both.
A disgrace is a dog that doesnt conform to the correct WUSC standard - this dog does....
a disgrace is a dog that coulnt do a days work - this dog can.
- where did you find your bit of the dog that matches up to the word disgrace Georgie ??
The owners and breeders of this dog took him to Crufts - presented him under the judge on the day - and took their chance with lots of other high quality animals ..... what did you do with your day? Did you sit b ehind your pc and watch, were you there spectating - or did you have a dog worthy of being at this prestigious event, and not take him - or even - did you take he or she..... before you make off the cuff comments like those above, lets get to see who you are - forgetting dogs, lets have a bit of stand up and be counted..... put your name to your feelings. I could quite go with you posting
"!the dog was not the type that I admire! "
- that would be your opinion, but your rantings go further than that, and of course so can they, because you are hiding behind that screen.
Regarding the Group judging. Shirley stayed to watch the whole thing, and didnt feel that Lesko was dismissed, she just felt that Lesko did a fabulous Group presentation for us, and the judge just didnt choose him - fair and simple.
She also felt that the Pharao Hound was beyond belief and really took her eye, althogh we know nothing between us about that breed.
We didnt see anything of the apalling behaviour of one of the exhibitors/spectators towards Mrs Stanbra, but are very cross that it should have happened. As we didnt see it, but are told by very reliable sources of what hapened, I would suggest that this lady is exposed by name for the comments that she made, and should be made to apologise - she should also be told
"Come on - judge dismisses class, and you wish him a long and lowly death?" "Get agrip woman - this is only a dog show"
Regarding the dismissal of the class. If Tony Stanbra thought that his class was not worthy of a placement, then so be it - sad but ok - he`s the judge. Before anyone jumps about at that comment, there was a Mascani bitch in that class. She wasnt sold to show, she was sold as a companion and her owners felt she was worthy of showing, and to be honest she isnt a bad type of girl in my eyes, and of course the eyes of other judges that have given her award - but I`m not going to cry about it - or wish him death - I`m going to accept his decision, as did the owners of this girl.
I actually feel he did a super job. We won Special Yearling with Shirleys Mascani Giselle - and the other classes had super types up front, well done all.
At one of the later female classes Mr Stanbra was obviously upset that he had been told to rush on by the Chief Steward - and he apologised to exhibitors.
Well - I said in my breed notes of last weeks Our Dogs, that we all should support him, in wht was possibly going to be a difficult year at Crufts - I ddnt expect he was going to be wished dead, o
Thats my opinion..... now for the opinion of. Geogehopwood
He thinks he was a disgrace
A disgrace is an animal that is not sound, in movement or mind. He is both.
A disgrace is a dog that doesnt conform to the correct WUSC standard - this dog does....
a disgrace is a dog that coulnt do a days work - this dog can.
- where did you find your bit of the dog that matches up to the word disgrace Georgie ??
The owners and breeders of this dog took him to Crufts - presented him under the judge on the day - and took their chance with lots of other high quality animals ..... what did you do with your day? Did you sit b ehind your pc and watch, were you there spectating - or did you have a dog worthy of being at this prestigious event, and not take him - or even - did you take he or she..... before you make off the cuff comments like those above, lets get to see who you are - forgetting dogs, lets have a bit of stand up and be counted..... put your name to your feelings. I could quite go with you posting
"!the dog was not the type that I admire! "
- that would be your opinion, but your rantings go further than that, and of course so can they, because you are hiding behind that screen.
Regarding the Group judging. Shirley stayed to watch the whole thing, and didnt feel that Lesko was dismissed, she just felt that Lesko did a fabulous Group presentation for us, and the judge just didnt choose him - fair and simple.
She also felt that the Pharao Hound was beyond belief and really took her eye, althogh we know nothing between us about that breed.
We didnt see anything of the apalling behaviour of one of the exhibitors/spectators towards Mrs Stanbra, but are very cross that it should have happened. As we didnt see it, but are told by very reliable sources of what hapened, I would suggest that this lady is exposed by name for the comments that she made, and should be made to apologise - she should also be told
"Come on - judge dismisses class, and you wish him a long and lowly death?" "Get agrip woman - this is only a dog show"
Regarding the dismissal of the class. If Tony Stanbra thought that his class was not worthy of a placement, then so be it - sad but ok - he`s the judge. Before anyone jumps about at that comment, there was a Mascani bitch in that class. She wasnt sold to show, she was sold as a companion and her owners felt she was worthy of showing, and to be honest she isnt a bad type of girl in my eyes, and of course the eyes of other judges that have given her award - but I`m not going to cry about it - or wish him death - I`m going to accept his decision, as did the owners of this girl.
I actually feel he did a super job. We won Special Yearling with Shirleys Mascani Giselle - and the other classes had super types up front, well done all.
At one of the later female classes Mr Stanbra was obviously upset that he had been told to rush on by the Chief Steward - and he apologised to exhibitors.
Well - I said in my breed notes of last weeks Our Dogs, that we all should support him, in wht was possibly going to be a difficult year at Crufts - I ddnt expect he was going to be wished dead, o
by Penny on 09 March 2009 - 13:03
sorry - finger twitched too soon continued from post above.....
wished dead, or that he was going to be made uncomfortable by his own steward, and his wife upset just for being there to enjoy her day.
THAT IS WHAT IS A DISGRACE GEORGEHOPWOOD - NOT THE DOG THAT WON THE CLASS.
Mo - Mascani.
wished dead, or that he was going to be made uncomfortable by his own steward, and his wife upset just for being there to enjoy her day.
THAT IS WHAT IS A DISGRACE GEORGEHOPWOOD - NOT THE DOG THAT WON THE CLASS.
Mo - Mascani.
by tigermouse on 09 March 2009 - 14:03
well shame on whoever it was.
what a dreadful thing to say
what a dreadful thing to say
by Linda B on 09 March 2009 - 14:03
Firstly congratulations to the owners and breeders of Conadrew Lesko on being awarded the CC and BOB at Crufts. His presentation and preformace where excellent he is a credit to you. WELL DONE!
I watched the Judging of males at Crufts but missed the bitches due to the fact that I was showing my Swedish Vallhund. In my opinion Mr Stanbra was fair,honest and judged to the breed standard. We showed a male in Limit dog who was not placed and yes we where a bit dissapionted but still felt that the judging was fair.
Linda B
Korzwin GSDs
I watched the Judging of males at Crufts but missed the bitches due to the fact that I was showing my Swedish Vallhund. In my opinion Mr Stanbra was fair,honest and judged to the breed standard. We showed a male in Limit dog who was not placed and yes we where a bit dissapionted but still felt that the judging was fair.
Linda B
Korzwin GSDs
by funky munky on 09 March 2009 - 14:03
Hats off to the judge with the courage to dismiss a class he felt unworthy of placing!!!! How often do you see that? The judge's decision is final, his choice on the day, not everybody is going to agree or be happy about it, tough!!!! Why do some people need to come on here and bump thier gums about it? Get over it, move on, decisions made, won't make one bit of difference to the result on the day!!!!! Some people really need to think before they open that thing below thier nose, to question the BOB shows total lack of knowledge,imo. liz
by BRADY BEE on 09 March 2009 - 15:03
Congratulations to all the winners. Liz--- Totally agree----as usual LOL
by Blanik on 09 March 2009 - 16:03
Conadrew Lesko is simply stunning!
Hats Off to the judge for some great honest decisions!
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