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by triodegirl on 10 February 2009 - 12:02
My first GSD was naturally protective and was like having my own personal body guard for 11 years. I didn't realize how special he was until after he was gone. It's been 20 years and I've yet to find another dog with his natural abilities. My current pup is 9 months and doesn't even bark. Where do I start with her? Other than tieing her to a post and letting some hack trainer shock and beat her, how do I get her protective instincts out? I think dogs either have it or they don't and it's pretty tough to turn a dog into something that isn't natural for them. At least that has been my experience.
by Bob McKown on 10 February 2009 - 12:02
At least you were smart enough to say "not with my dog" good for you. I,d think those people are not representitve of the PPD training being spoke of hear. I,d hope not any ways.
by snajper69 on 10 February 2009 - 14:02
Lol are they for real triodegirl? Sorry but no self respected PPD trainer would do that.
"They tied my dog to a post (literally) and started talking about hooking up some sort of shock devices to his nads"
By tying your dog to the post you remove the handler dog connection that leash is giving you during the fight. Most dog will fire up once worked in a pray for a while than energy and confidence should be coming from you (your dog will feed off your confidence, your encouragement, and your energy). Why would you let any one tie your dog to a post (unless you can't handle your own dog).
"Hooking up some sort of shock devices to his nads" - tell them to try it on their nuts first and see how they like it lol.
lol.
by 4pack on 10 February 2009 - 15:02
by snajper69 on 10 February 2009 - 15:02
by gagsd4 on 10 February 2009 - 15:02
I think the "backwoods or alley" trainers that call themselves PPD trainers are what leave such a bad taste in my mouth when I hear PPD.
I KNOW that PPD training itself is not a bunch of morons back-tying dogs to trees and beating them, but that is what I see in this area and they all call themselves "personal protection dog trainers" and John Q falls for that crap:(
Mary
by Uglydog on 10 February 2009 - 16:02
What Nonsense.
One can also be sued for using deadly force to protect ones own life, home and family by intruders. Such cases Have been tried. Usually unsuccessfully.
There is a saying amongst gun owners...
'Its Better to be judged by a jury of 12, than carried by Pall Bearers of 6'
To that end, some of us believe our lives are actually Worth Defending and Prepare ourselves for such encounters by: training & arming ourselves with the best firearms, practice, ammunition & trainers.
Some dont think their own lives, yours or others, are worth defending and spout the neo- liberal babble of 'You might Be charged with a felony'
Why How dare you defend your life! How dare you train your dog to protect you and yours.
My .02c....
Take your chances with a well trained Protection dog, Not sport dog, IF and only IF, you deem it an important part of your self preservation and protection plan.
But such a trained dog, is NOT a cure all, but only 1 component in a comprehensive defensive plan.
I'll leave you with this.
If you aint armed, you aint serious about self defense..
by Patrick Murray on 10 February 2009 - 16:02
Two Moons, it's not my board but I appreciate the invitiation to stay here. However, my post here was intended to bring over to the new board those who are interested in learning and sharing about PPD dogs.
Bob, thanks for the invite. If you ever make it to Orlando look me up. In the meantime, please consider checking out the new board and feel free to make whatever positive contibutions to this burgeoning PPD community.
Qoute by Snaiper69: Nope this is the kind of training that feeds on ignorance of people. Because alot of people think that PPD dog supposed to bite and that's all. PPD is just as much about control as it is about biting. You don't want good biting dog with no control, and you don't want a dog that has good control but he won't bite. Plus you never try to turn a dog into something that he is not.
Well said, Snaiper69!
Triodegirl, come over and check out the board. It may answer some of your questions as well as dispel some commonly held myths. http://www.protectiondogtrainingclub.com/forum/index.php
by snajper69 on 10 February 2009 - 16:02
Ugly, good point if you coming onto my property and intent to hurt me or my family I won't just send my dog on you but I will use anything close by weather it will be a gun, a baseball bat, or a kitchen knife, and if law will tell me that I can’t, than there is something wrong with the Law and people that live by it. If you are trying to hurt me or my family I don't care if you wearing a badge you will end up 6 feet under. I rather end up in front of the judge for defending my self, than 6 feet under because I was too afraid to respond.
Just something to think about.
No dog is not a weapon and many times it will not be enough to protect you 100% but it will give you: few extra minute to gear yourself so that you can protect yourself, extra confidence when you put in harmful situation, will make the bad guy think 100 times before he decide to do something stupid. This is why I love my dogs, I can always recall one but you won't be able to recall a bullet.
by Bob McKown on 10 February 2009 - 16:02
I love Disney World"it,s a small world after all" I,m there every 3 years but with the economics of the situation this would be my 3 year visit but i,m keeping the money in the bank this time. If i get there any sooner i,ll give you a shout.
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