Max von Stephanitz and SV??? - Page 5

Ceph...BBS?? That's a new one to me. What does it stand for? 

I wonder how the first GSD breed standard was worded.

I'd love to see a translated copy.

BBS = Berger Blanc Suisse...the White Swiss Shepherd Dog.  My avatar is my Dutch Import female.

~Cate

misbeeb, there's one thing I'm sure of with respect to this board. We will continue to argue about this until the cows come home. People on this board just LOVE to argue! 

It's like religion. As an atheist friend of my husband's once told  him, "If we both agreed about God and religion, our discussions would become as boring as dishwater!"

LOL! Too true!

To try to compare Max v Stephanitz and the dogs in his time to the situation today is quite ridiculous.   For a start the breeding material in the beginning was extremely limited and unlike today where there are greater numbers available and more breeders worldwide.  However, despite the limitations in von Stephanitz time the breed progressed.  It has continued to progress and will continue to do so as time goes by.

mackenzie

Has anyone ever come across the original GSD Breed Standard?
Did Max revise this document before his death, if so how many times?
Has anyone come across the last version that Max would have had his hand in writing?

The working line dogs seem to look much more like the 1900 thru 1910's version of the GSD. I'd like to assume that Max was still trying to perfect his breed at that time.  Mid 1930's dogs could have most likely been closer to his ideal, since he had more time to devleope the traits. 

I know its crazy, but in a perfect world, german shepherd breeders would respect the wishes of the men who created the breed and stick to it. VA included.

Hey guys, lets get back on subject......we've all been doing such a great job.......few digs, stabbings, and namecalling......

Please lets continue to put our ego's aside and continue this discussion like adults..........

Please!

In a perfect world there would have not been war and max would have grown old watching his dog working the hill side in peace.  The breed would not be the same as it is now at all.

Do you really think CPT Max would have liked to have lines of his breed for conformation and lines of his breed for working?  Do you really think he was so interested in conformation showing as that?

I think in the end the working dog people will always care less about a written standard that focuses moreso on pretty looks and not so much on the working aspects and functionaly of the dog...whereas the conformation people will always flout that written standard as word of law.

I tend to think the Captain was in that Former group, rather than in the latter.  The standard he wrote of in his books wasnt so much a written play by play of how each part of the dog should look like, and seemed more like an overview of what structure would create the best working dog.

~Cate