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by Deejays_Owner on 17 September 2008 - 00:09
The article is call Freeheeling, so I don't think he would be talking about sits & downs.
And as you can see from the video, he has them on a short leash by about 6 months.
Something I hear a lot is I should have imprinted a stand while they were a pup!!
Funny my Daughter has only worked her pup a few minutes a day on heeling, another
few Min's a day on the other stuff. I was holding the pup in the video for the recall.

by sueincc on 17 September 2008 - 04:09
I only watched the last video of your puppy. As I said earlier, I think you have a nice pup, if it were me, I would do less with it at this age. i assume your pup is close in age to the pup in this Mohnweise video? :
But notice how much freer the puppy in this video moves. I think this is because the puppy is up in drive, the handler is joyful, playful and moving quickly, not walking slowly, and this puppy reflects same. This is all I want from puppies, I want this free movement and joyful attitude.
Remember I have only the one video of your pup to look at. Maybe this was a very warm day, maybe the pup was less animated than usual, I don't know.
I'm going to leave this as my last word on this topic, (although I will continue to read it because I like to read what other people do with their puppies). My intention was never to have some sort of an argument over how people train their puppies, and I am afraid that's where this thread may go, as threads on the database often turn from opinion to argument. I believe the original poster asked for peoples opinions. I expressed my opinion as did others, and I gave my reasons for my opinion, for me to continue to post beyond this point will only lead to me repeating myself, which serves no one and becomes irritating.
Everyone is free to train their dogs as they see fit. Do what works for you, as I do what works for me. Most people take a little from here and there and mold it to fit their own program, I don't see too many people who do things exactly alike.
P.S. The dog in my avatar is an Asko grandson too. You are in for a fun ride with your pup!

by Deejays_Owner on 17 September 2008 - 13:09
I was not trying to start an argument either!
I posted Mohnweise video, to show that some people do work a pup from 8 wks -> Adult heeling, Only.
In my daughters Video, this a pup that has had 3 meals that day was not crated, it's after 7pm on a Sunday night.
The dogs have been for a free run for 15-20 min's in the school yard before.
A young girl trying to do a formal workout knowing that Hundreds of people will be watching.
It shows a very biddable pup (house dog) with a great bond with a young handler.
P.S. I guess we should stage a 15 sec. Video, with the pup all jacked up, next time.............
by Teri on 17 September 2008 - 15:09
I agree with you 100% Sueinc. I don't put the puppy with my 16 month old female because she is way too rough and would run the baby over, not a good thing for building confidence. :o( I don't want the pup to be fearful of anything or anyone. :o( At the house the pup when not in her crate spends limited time with my 4 beagles or some of my BIG cats. She thinks they are Great!!!! The beagles are her size and love to play with her. She is only allowed some time with them as she will over do if you let her. My plan now is to seperate the 16 month old from my older female and have the 16 month old in the kennel in the back yard once the pup is old enough to spend time with the older female. I am unsure if this will cause/promote jealousy between the 16 month old female and pup. I won't even consider putting the pup in a kennel next to the 16 month old for some time, if ever. Sounds like that is a no no. I've been taking the pup to work with me where she has a crate to lay in and play with toys. We go on potty breaks at which time we play for short periods of time outside with a stick, etc. only for a minute or two. Once she is older and able to be crated all day without accidents, I think she is better off being crated at the house while I'm at work. I don't want her being to dependant on me. She can spend time with the older GSD female or me in the house once I get home from work. By then she will be too big to romp with the beagles without supervision because they will be at risk of injury. :o( I never let the big dogs play with the smaller ones without supervision, it's all fun & games until someone gets hurt. :o( I usually have all the dogs out together in the back yard with me playing in the pool, etc. once a week.
Do you find that dogs in kennels side by side develope/promote aggression or fence bitting? What do you guys do to minimize agression while feeding your dogs? I put everyone in their crate in the dog room and then feed them. Once everyone is finished I take up the bowls and seperate the little dogs from the big dogs for potty time. The beagle crates are on top of the GSD crates. My beagles jump up to get fed. My 16 month old GSD has started barking at one of the female beagles & visa versa at feeding time. Should I remove the crates from on top or just start feeding the smaller dogs in another room? I think the jumping up and down from the crate over her is what is causing the issue. Any suggestions. This is all new to me. The only GSD I've ever owned is my old girl who I found on the side of the road abandoned, abused and half starved to death. She has never been an ounce of trouble but is not a high drive GSD. I have to tell you I am in over my head with my 16 month old GSD and this new pup. They are high drive 24/7. I cannot be happier with my 16 month old as far as her inteligence and work ethics but she is a handfull. I should have my head examined for getting the second pup with the same drive. I don't know how you guys do it with multiple high drive dogs. I didn't realize I would have to seperate them so much and by the sounds of it that is never going to change since they are both females.
Teri

by snajper69 on 17 September 2008 - 15:09
Yes, guys I asked only for opinion, and only reason I asked because I meat up with some breeders over the weekend, and wow it looks like my puppy is doing way more than theirs lol, so i was wondering how it compares to some of you. My female is now 11 wk No formal obedience But she does jump of 5 feet walls straight in my hands (helps build trust in my opinion) We do go for a walks through the woods, (every morning 5 a.m. and evening 6 p.m.) I believe it's about 20-45 minutes walk, and I let her figure it out her own way around the obstacles (brought down trees etc) on occasions we do meet people and other dogs (some more social, some less) and I let her socialize with the owners and their dogs a bit, but don't let the other dogs over run my pup. She dose play with my 2 years female (but the female lets her have her own way, so if anything this build confidence in her, over the last few weeks) My trainer dose some tug with her on Sundays, and start working her a bit, he dose not believe its a good idea for me to play tug with her ;) dog is from his breeding so I will trust his opinion. And Home Depot trips (but I am sure all of you do that one) :) If you have any other suggestions please let me know, I am constantly changing it a bit, want to make sure my pup is as confident, and socialize as possible. So far I think it works well. I don’t believe I am soft on her, but neither I am tough, for now I simply let her be a pup. Thanks all, I started this threat because I noticed there is nothing that might help people that just got a puppy, and just want to make sure that they doing it right. I believe my way works, and I will continue, but there is so many other ways to do it right, that its nice to hear from other.

by snajper69 on 17 September 2008 - 16:09
By the way I am planing to include kids play areas (watch out for the 50 as most don't allow dogs, and if you brake the law be ready to pay the fine and please always clean up after your self). Kids come first. Is just so much you can do in there with your dog to help him get used to different surface, and help him build confidence.
Thanks

by Deejays_Owner on 17 September 2008 - 17:09
I'm going to leave this as my last post on this topic, a few kids play areas pictures.

by wdozier on 17 September 2008 - 19:09
Hello everyone,
I am new to this message board but I have been reading everyones tips on training and feeding etc. We have a 15 wk old gsd that we are going to get into schutzhund training. We actually go out to the field this coming weekend. I will have to post his photos soon. I do have a couple questions. Somebody mentioned "imprinting" what is that exactly? And can anyone tell me what does the title SG-1 mean. Iv tried googling it but dont get any answers.
Im glad iv found this website... some very good tips.
Thanks for any info

by animules on 17 September 2008 - 19:09
Three threads in one.
Teri, I would not have your Beagles crates stacked on top othe others at this point. It's causing issues as you have already seen. It gets down right loud in my house when one of my house cats jumps up on one of the dogs crates, usually in the middle of the night. LOL As far as side by side kennels. There are only two I can't place next to each other, the other combinations in the side by side are fine. If you need to use both sides just install a solid wall they can't see or fence fight through, I used hanging rubber stall mats for a while before I installed the other kennel. Having multiple high drive girlies is doable, you just have to plan ahead and manage them. And yes, jealousy will probably be an issue.
Deejays owner, You commented that your daughter did not expect to have hundreds of people watching. By posting the video you invited comments even if they were not what you wanted to hear. Perhaps posting the video was not fair to your daughter? JMHO. Nice looking pup in the play ground pictures, I did not watch the video after your comment about hundreds watching.....
snaiper69, it sounds like your training director has you on the right track. Please do be careful when out for your walks though as "stuff" can happen fast when you meet up with strange dogs. And I can picture it now, fully grown dog at 70 - 80 pounds jump off a 5-foot wall into your arms. LOL!

by snajper69 on 17 September 2008 - 19:09
LoL Lets hope not :) Animules but I never did that with my other female and she is trying it all the time lol but i am 225 6.3 i can handle it :) lol My other females jumps of the wall straight on the top of my car lol I been telling my GF to put her on the leash when I am coming when they are outside wating lol :)
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