How to get a better heel/fuss/Au pied - Page 5

I wish to achieve happiness and harmony with my dog, satisfaction in what we accomplish together, be it just my pal or a title. I wont be pushed for more or less. My dogs are my hobby, what calms me down. I sure as shit don't need somebody screaming at me from behind quotes 4pack

Me too........Something about you girl..........I like you,.....you got grit, you are a pretty girl too, I would like to meet you, would that be possibe? and I promise I will not scream from behind while you train. I might scream some other time but not while you fuss........  Cheers pretty biscuit !!!!!!!

recommend you buy Ivan's book Advanced Shutzhund, The technuiqe I described is exactly what is in his book for solving your exact problem. Who knows maybe there are better trainers than Ivan out there?
 

Ivan is good, my club buys and trains his dogs and pratices what he preaches,,,,,he is very good, there some people from the Netherlands they are also very good, they have  different type of dogs, they use a little different style than Ivan. some PSA people on East and West Coast they are very good also, again most have dogs that are a little different than your typical schutzhund point dogs, so again little different methods here and there. 

I heard someone was putting aggression into your dog. Baden is a big dominant boy. I remember you telling me something about the lady with the big bulldog. If you keep going down the road you are going there is a VERY strong possibility that will be you.

I hope someone is putting a little agression into your dog for pets sakes she doing sport work, even schutzhund you want strong dog coming into the blind showing power and agression to the judge. If you worry your dog is bigger than you ,...you need to be doing AKC or UKC OB. If you worry about periodicly reinforcining a few things with your dog, don't get a real strong dog and damn sure don't get a good bulldog or any furries with KNPV relatives stacked deep and you be Ok.,

Good trainers train for what is best for the dog and the client. Not what makes them look good out on the trial field."Qotes little Ivan i mean gard

correct great trainers bring best out of each different dog. If handler training sport you train for points, you train to look good, look sharp on the field out there. You train for home, you train for power, you train for aggression, you train for anything. 

Just my humble thoughts and beliefs from watching many of the best.

I like you 4pack, you are a pretty girl, ..have I told youu that before? Of  course I"m like Ivan I love strong dogs and pretty girls.

Jeff

You know what they say about bulldogs?

They are short "legged", have a hard time breathing while worked up, and they are hard to mate.

4-pack,

 My girl was getting bad about it too. Since we did not have a wall to use, we tried a board walk about 12 inchs wide and very long. Her sits became straight. Our's is about 8 inches off the ground and we use it every week. Just an idea.

One aspect of a good trainer is adjusting training methods to fit the needs of the dog/handler team. I have seen trainers who let people have false hope and train for years with a dog that will never make it. I have seen trainers who take a strong dog way past the capabilities of their handler. Take a large dominant dog, green female handler who does day care,has 10-15 people in and out of her house every day and lets her dog off leash because she wants a pet.  Go ahead and put aggression into that dog. What's the worst that can happen?

 I don't forget where I came from, who taught me what, and who helped me get where I am. Some people do. Anyone knows one person does not attain titles and win championships all by themselves. There are people in this world though that like to take all the credit.

 I am a firm believer fo giving credit where credit is due. I have done so many times. Right here on this board if people pay attention. The same respect has never been and will never be returned.

Bulldog,

I am happy to know I have my own personal little troll on the board

don't have to be a troll to read between the lines of your post gard..........don't be so thin-skinned just cause you think you are super trainner and got caught shit talking........dog world is full of people like you, your nothing new or rare.

Don that was funny.

4pack,

I applaud your efforts to open up discussions that could be beneficial to you and others.

Whether someone wants to train for lofty goals or whether they want to train just to have fun and spend time with their dog, those efforts should be recognized. For those of us in a club, who work together, we all know it is a club effort to get a dog anywhere. It takes the "whole Village" to support a handler and dog team. And, yet, it only takes one person to suck the fun out of the whole adventure.

I will offer another 2 cents to your initial inquiry. When  you see exercises begin to fall a part, you have to rely on foundation, both you and the dog. If the foundation of a house isn't there, it isn't a good idea to put the roof on yet. (See Frank and Kandi, I have listened to you!) Always go back to the beginning and reteach the exercise. Break it down, smaller steps, reward a bit more and only reward for correct placement or behavior (correct placement is correct behavior). It takes a long time, you need patience, but honestly, it does pay off in the end.

My female and I had a really hard time working on correct placement of the fuss. I still spend hours a week working on this now I am just reinforcing the correctness of it all. I would spend 15 mintues a night, in the kitchen fussing her against the cabinets, the walls in the hall way. Usually three steps, sit, reward.  Outside I would go to a ball park and do the same thing along the fence line. It helped....but important info here, it never allowed her to make a mistake to learn from.  So, again, I went back to breaking it all down, and letting her know exactly where I wanted her butt end to be. I did end up using a thin twine looped around her back end to gently put her into position when and if she stepped out of line. This only took about a week for her to get it, with one 10 minute session a day. I had to relax and be more patient. My dog is highly ball driven...which means for her, that the ball cannot be in play to teach her something. She is food driven, but if given the choice of food or ball, the ball always wins. I use food to teach a behavior. Once she has the behavior then I use the ball to reward the behavior when completed correctly.

I say all this, because everyone has a gimmick, a gadget, something that covers up the lack of foundation. Go back and rebuild the foundation and then the other layers will literally fall into place.

Hi Bulldog!

Do I know you? Your questioning my accomplishements and abiliites suggests you do not. However, I notice you just started posting on this board. You have seemed to be taking a special interest in bad-mouthing me and trying to get under my skin. This makes me think you do know me and have some sort of problem with me.

 My friends who have recently won two national championships the past two years seem comfortable with me working their dogs. The fact that a dog I trained has just become available and people are jumping at the bit to get to him, must mean I am not too bad.

So I see things one of three ways.

1) You do not know me and are simply a troll

2) You do know me and have some sort of problem with me.

3) You are an internet slimball that is cruising this board for chicks because you have struck out with all the 13 year olds on MYSPACE.

Which is it?

Very cute! Now can this thread up and die allready?