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by paulie on 15 February 2009 - 19:02
Sue, we go back too far to have spates in cyber space, i value your input, and would never question your ethics, your love of our breed is not in doubt, it's just that we have differences in our articulations, we both want the same result, we just say it differently.
By the way Susie, i have not needed any bodies assistance to " gang up " on somebody since 1959.
As always.
Regards Paul.
By the way Susie, i have not needed any bodies assistance to " gang up " on somebody since 1959.
As always.
Regards Paul.

by missbeeb on 15 February 2009 - 19:02
Frustration... that's all it is, (imo) Bill, Paul et al. It's not bullying or badgering... it's frustration!
You know how that feels... a great idea, easy access to the ballot, everybody wants it when you talk to them.... but? It's totally, bloody frustrating!
A little empathy please for one of our own... ?
Patience is hard and that's a fact!
by patrick on 15 February 2009 - 20:02
Sue, What word was I trying to put in you're mouth!!! Accusing people they may upset their ratings or special relationships with certain judges because they havn't committed to to the ballot, is a possible slur on these unnamed peoples characters, Yes you have a right to an opinion! Like other people have a right not to voice any opinion! "GO ON MAKE MY DAY" post sounds like you are taunting the peope, everyone is suposed to know, who havn't committed. Is you're next post going to expose their names! You could be bordering on schoolyard bullying. In you're post to Paul and myself you are still doing it! You state othe listings of Dont know! and undecided! Still trying to insist people have to vote. Sue just accept people are intelligent enough to either vote, or ignore it! Next you will be lending people you're laptop, or sending them a car!!! Best regards Sue! Bill Owen.

by Videx on 15 February 2009 - 21:02
I can place a "DON'T KNOW" column on the ballot table, if it is considered desireable.

by Sue B on 15 February 2009 - 21:02
Paulie, In that case I will just ignore your Kimo Sabi remark then. I agree we go back too far to even consider falling out in cyber space !! By the way, I never needed to gang up on anybody since cutting my first tooth and that was before 1959 !! lol
My Best Regards to you Always Susie
Bill, This is not the first time you have come onto this board to attack me personally and doubtless it wont be the last. I repeat I have not singled out any individual and if you wanted to look clever by using sarcasm why didnt you do it to defend our breed against the likes of PP on the other thread instead of coming on here to attack what you consider an easy target. Someone prepared to speak their mind, to stand up and be counted without having a PERSONAL DIG at ANY INDIVIDUAL, perhaps you could bare that in mind before the next personal comment you feel the need to make on me. There are lots of things I could say about many and their dogs, but that is not for me, I dont play dirty, I dont rubbish other peoples dogs or their personage on this messageboard, even when they have got personal with me, if I feel the need to tell someone something I tell it to them face to face, not in cyberspace. So pipe that and smoke it.
Missbeeb, Without ever meeting or knowing each outside this messageboard YOU understand me more perfectly than all those who have stood at the ringside with me for years and for that I THANK YOU from the bottom of my heart, reminds me of that saying, "There's non so blind as those that will not see."
David, I for one would think it a good idea to have an undecided section. I know there are some very genuine people who are undecided, especially as they have no concept of how the split could be done and if it would stand a chance of working. Secondly, I would hate to think that there are those out there that genuine want to give an opinion but are yet unable to do so because they havent yet made their minds up which way to vote. Also, perhaps having some idea of just how many people actually are undecided would be as beneficial as knowing the numbers of those whose minds are already made up.
Regards
Sue b
My Best Regards to you Always Susie
Bill, This is not the first time you have come onto this board to attack me personally and doubtless it wont be the last. I repeat I have not singled out any individual and if you wanted to look clever by using sarcasm why didnt you do it to defend our breed against the likes of PP on the other thread instead of coming on here to attack what you consider an easy target. Someone prepared to speak their mind, to stand up and be counted without having a PERSONAL DIG at ANY INDIVIDUAL, perhaps you could bare that in mind before the next personal comment you feel the need to make on me. There are lots of things I could say about many and their dogs, but that is not for me, I dont play dirty, I dont rubbish other peoples dogs or their personage on this messageboard, even when they have got personal with me, if I feel the need to tell someone something I tell it to them face to face, not in cyberspace. So pipe that and smoke it.
Missbeeb, Without ever meeting or knowing each outside this messageboard YOU understand me more perfectly than all those who have stood at the ringside with me for years and for that I THANK YOU from the bottom of my heart, reminds me of that saying, "There's non so blind as those that will not see."
David, I for one would think it a good idea to have an undecided section. I know there are some very genuine people who are undecided, especially as they have no concept of how the split could be done and if it would stand a chance of working. Secondly, I would hate to think that there are those out there that genuine want to give an opinion but are yet unable to do so because they havent yet made their minds up which way to vote. Also, perhaps having some idea of just how many people actually are undecided would be as beneficial as knowing the numbers of those whose minds are already made up.
Regards
Sue b

by jaymesie51 on 15 February 2009 - 22:02
dont see the point in that david this is a straight vote its a yes or a no simple we can just take it that all non voters are dont knows
jim h
jim h

by missbeeb on 15 February 2009 - 22:02
... or, "don't cares"!

by jaymesie51 on 15 February 2009 - 22:02
i would think that after 30 odd years of two distinct different types of gsd then people should know if it would be benificial to both types to split them or not what is there to be unsure about this is not a vote to change anything yet it is to see if the gsd/alsatian could or should be split once all votes are in then it will be the time to decide how to go to the KC and ask them to consider a split if the vote goes that way, instead of gsd /alsatian breeders pulling each others dogs to bits here is a chance to pull together and either say you are for it or against it
jim h
jim h

by Sue B on 15 February 2009 - 22:02
Missbeeb , Precisely! Are you sure we're not related? Already met one twin on here. !!! lol
All the best
Sue
All the best
Sue
by patrick on 15 February 2009 - 22:02
Sue, I dont consider my post to be a personal attack on you! or are you an easy target. I dont understand why you are ranting about other people and their dogs and what you could say. The post was about you're opinions why people must vote, not about you! And who the f--- is PP. Once again does anyone know the total Affixes in the Shepherd/Alastian section of the K.C. If it is high, the ballot will need to show a high percentage of voters for the K.C. to take it seriously. Bill Owen.
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