The decline of the German Shepherd character - Page 41

 My quote: A GSD/Police dog is a GSD/Police dog, the same dog to the general public......

I can't make it any clearer that I was NOT referring to it not mattering if LE dog were workinglines or showlines. Of course it matters and if you plan to use your dog as a LE dog, then you have a good start. 

Wonderful that your dog has been tested as civil. Not sure what that means, but I'm happy for you anyway. Have a great day.

Haz: The comments on his anotomy are funny too, I can guarentee his parents were not put together for their potential to make pretty dogs feel free to ask the breeder or handler. 

I´m sure about that - I wasn´t talking about his parents, a lot of dogs and breeders are involved in this dog. ( And I still think, although I only saw one vid, it´s a good dog - and I don´t say this very often ).

VK, at least I didn´t write "bread" 

Haz, I guess I must be speaking in tongues today. I DID NOT say that dog is a one trick pony - I said GSD's are not supposed to be one trick ponies. Geez.

My exact quote - vk, first I wasn't talking to you and secondly, yes, I want to see him doing something else other than biting. GSD's are not intended to be one trick ponies and I'm in  a learning curve where i want to see versatile GDS's, not dogs that can only do one thing - bite. 

Joan- when we talk about a generation with work ethic vs a generation of entitlement (not everyone in my generation) I think that it applies to a lot of things today, including owning a GSD and caring about its future-character-temperament

Blitzen- when you do bite work and train with an experienced trainer Of 30+ years and he says your dog is civil then I would take his word for it.  

Haz - It comes as no surprise to me that once again you have avoided the specific answer related to your comment on breeding. To help you the simple answer is that the tight inbreed that you refer to is either 2-2 or 3-2 or 2-3 or incest breeding. All that you had to do was identitfy which one. However, you chose to duck and dive and try to divert attention away from this. You really have no idea or knowledge regarding breeding.

To continually post videos of dogs doing only the bite work is no answer to the question particularly when they are not of your breeding. You posted in the discussion comments to denegrate me and my comments on a subject that is completely alien to you. I have, however established that the breeding formula that I used is identical to the breeding behind all of your examples. You also chose to try to denigrate my breeding method and those of like minds and that means every breeder behind the dogs that you hold out as examples and admire.

You even commented with a preconceived idea of what I would think about the dog on the latest video that you posted. I suggest that you go and read that response from me. Also this dog is another example of the way that I was breeding and also like minded people. The dog was mated to a female who was bred in exactly the same manner.

The tight inbreed that you prefer is the very reason that the showlines have their problems and the damage that it causes.

You have no need to respond to this post because you have nothing to say of interest to me relating to the topic of this thread.

I would like to thank the posters for showing the interest that they have had in this thread and I hope that some of you have got something out of it. I have now definitely finished with this thread.

Mackenzie

People should read, think, remember the source, think again, and than write...
Maybe it´s my advantage, that I need to read several times before I understand everything correctly ....

Deleted by author...rude post to another member. Sorry about that.

Blitzen, My father was a k9 handler in the 70's, I grew up with dogs.  This is my first GSD.  Maybe instead of making snarky remarks maybe it would behoove you to look up what civil means in reference to the breed.  We can respectfully disagree with each other.  my research began well before My purchase and continues up until today.  I'm not a breeder nor expert and always preface my posts w/ I'm new, green, or my experience is XYZ.  

May I also add years of "owning" means squat.  What one is doing with their dogs, moving forward, and how they train while receiving results matters more.  JMO

I believe I understand the meaning of "civil" as it refers to GSD's, Templar. Notice I deleted my last post to you because I felt it was rude and out of line. Let's just let it go at that.