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by GSD Admin on 09 December 2011 - 15:12
Silence is golden. 40 posts later to debunk something that is not even complete. hmmm.
by eichenluft on 09 December 2011 - 17:12
Thomas, you keep spinning the facts to suit your obsessed ideas about what "must have" happened IN YOUR OPINION!!!!
Al said he saw a white or light-colored van pulling away near his home. He did not say the van was parked, stopped, or that he saw the dog being put into it. Those were YOUR words you used to spin the facts.
Many people have told you they searched the area and the ditches. You choose to ignore them and keep spinning the facts to suit your - agenda? What agenda would that be Thomas?
And the "outline" of the dog proving decomposition - where did you read that Thomas? The area was "darker" - in the bottom of a drainage ditch where grass is not mowed and which probably was blackened and rotton to begin with. Did anyone actually test the area for evidence, or did they just state what they saw - the area appeared darker. No "outline" Thomas - again those are your words.
I'm interested in the facts only. I'm not interested in DRAMA and spinning false information for attention and argument, which is why you were moderated on Grassroots and the topic was closed. You would not shut up about it even when asked, then told to stop. And if you start again there, I will moderate you once again, promise.
ps check out the topic name here, and elsewhere. I would like to change the facebook page's name but can't - not after 250 members so the name is stuck.
There are 1400 members of that facebook group, all of whom are on there because they believe the dog was stolen or something sinister happened to him - but not one of those 1400 members is talking about this case and spinning facts like you are. Why is that Thomas?
Al said he saw a white or light-colored van pulling away near his home. He did not say the van was parked, stopped, or that he saw the dog being put into it. Those were YOUR words you used to spin the facts.
Many people have told you they searched the area and the ditches. You choose to ignore them and keep spinning the facts to suit your - agenda? What agenda would that be Thomas?
And the "outline" of the dog proving decomposition - where did you read that Thomas? The area was "darker" - in the bottom of a drainage ditch where grass is not mowed and which probably was blackened and rotton to begin with. Did anyone actually test the area for evidence, or did they just state what they saw - the area appeared darker. No "outline" Thomas - again those are your words.
I'm interested in the facts only. I'm not interested in DRAMA and spinning false information for attention and argument, which is why you were moderated on Grassroots and the topic was closed. You would not shut up about it even when asked, then told to stop. And if you start again there, I will moderate you once again, promise.
ps check out the topic name here, and elsewhere. I would like to change the facebook page's name but can't - not after 250 members so the name is stuck.
There are 1400 members of that facebook group, all of whom are on there because they believe the dog was stolen or something sinister happened to him - but not one of those 1400 members is talking about this case and spinning facts like you are. Why is that Thomas?
by Dobermannman on 09 December 2011 - 18:12
Read the report Molly
Name ONE of the MANY people who searched the area and ONE that will state they looked exactly where the body was found and that he wasn't there a week earlier.
You're the one spiinning like a top.
You're the one that started the facebook page with the outrageous claim that the dog was Stolen and Murdered with NO PROOF.
You're the one with an Agenda
Removed text as completely off topic, and if the personal insults do not stop the thread may!!!! Thank you. mrdarcy (mod)
NOW you're on another BS crusade spinning stories and inventing "facts" and providiing zero proof.
Nothing has changed.
What will Molly have to say when all the reports are in and the FACTS remain. Hex was accidently hit by a
truck NO conspiracy, NO stolen murdered dog?
Amusing that with all your "let's not discuss the issue until all the facts are in" on Grass Roots, you come
over here and start running your mouth. hmmmmmm
I"m done with you Molly. Going to "wait till all the reports are in"
Thomas Barriano
Name ONE of the MANY people who searched the area and ONE that will state they looked exactly where the body was found and that he wasn't there a week earlier.
You're the one spiinning like a top.
You're the one that started the facebook page with the outrageous claim that the dog was Stolen and Murdered with NO PROOF.
You're the one with an Agenda
Removed text as completely off topic, and if the personal insults do not stop the thread may!!!! Thank you. mrdarcy (mod)
NOW you're on another BS crusade spinning stories and inventing "facts" and providiing zero proof.
Nothing has changed.
What will Molly have to say when all the reports are in and the FACTS remain. Hex was accidently hit by a
truck NO conspiracy, NO stolen murdered dog?
Amusing that with all your "let's not discuss the issue until all the facts are in" on Grass Roots, you come
over here and start running your mouth. hmmmmmm
I"m done with you Molly. Going to "wait till all the reports are in"
Thomas Barriano

by GSD Admin on 09 December 2011 - 18:12
Yawn, Thomas it appears you have an agenda. Fact: 41 posts to debunk something that is not even complete, just seems obsessive to me.
I think the PMs I am receiving have some truth to them and this appears to be very political and not really about debunking or differing opinions, but more about some personal grudge or issue. Sad.
BTW, don't bother answering as I have made up my mind by your stonewalling my questions.
And please from this point forward--STAY ON TOPIC. I do wonder about you linking to Steve Leighs site and the can of worms that opens.
I think the PMs I am receiving have some truth to them and this appears to be very political and not really about debunking or differing opinions, but more about some personal grudge or issue. Sad.
BTW, don't bother answering as I have made up my mind by your stonewalling my questions.
And please from this point forward--STAY ON TOPIC. I do wonder about you linking to Steve Leighs site and the can of worms that opens.
by GSDmom56 on 09 December 2011 - 21:12
For GODS sake Thomas, Chaz - give it a rest... The truth will be found out sooner or later, I'm not edven going to ask what your vested interest is in this - LORD knows I don't want to open THAT can of worms!
Sincerely,
Victoria
Sincerely,
Victoria

by Chaz Reinhold on 10 December 2011 - 00:12
"Victoria", please explain why I need to give it a rest. I haven't really said anything other than my opinion, and I've held that back. I've been a member here for quite a few years. Maybe you have too, but your screen name just joined in November and you seem to live on this thread. Please explain what I have done wrong. What, because i state that I am probably closer to Thomas than the conspiracy theories? Well, golly gee, Victoria. I can only go by what is reported.

by JEB on 10 December 2011 - 02:12
NOTE: Molly is on target.
Upon "legal" advice due to the continueing investigation those "in the know" "those who searched" "those who were there to load HEX for his trip to the U of I" - have been cautioned about posting on these sites.
I don't think this is any of your business Thomas - Aren't you the one whose club application didn't get processed prior to the Regional election and prior to the Region being split into other Regions==??????
Could this be the "WHY" of Thomas' agenda? Why his nose is sniffing all over HEX? Didn't you quit USCA because of all that happened back then??? - or are you still a member?
Old School -
JEB
Upon "legal" advice due to the continueing investigation those "in the know" "those who searched" "those who were there to load HEX for his trip to the U of I" - have been cautioned about posting on these sites.
I don't think this is any of your business Thomas - Aren't you the one whose club application didn't get processed prior to the Regional election and prior to the Region being split into other Regions==??????
Could this be the "WHY" of Thomas' agenda? Why his nose is sniffing all over HEX? Didn't you quit USCA because of all that happened back then??? - or are you still a member?
Old School -
JEB
by Dobermannman on 10 December 2011 - 04:12
Jeb
"Mr just joined Oct 29th and hasn't posted on any other topic" Tell us all about those "in the know"
We'll see what you have to say after all the reports are in and the court cases are settled
FYI I've been a continuos USCA member for 10+ years. How long have you been a member "JEB"?
Your information about me and my old club is as accurate as your "first hand information" about the
Hex situation. Hex was hit by a truck the day he went missing andl laid in the ditch for two weeks before he was found by someone looking for cans along the road..
The "why" of my Agenda is the TRUTH.
You and Molly can spin all you want till the TRUTH comes out.
Thomas Barriano
"Mr just joined Oct 29th and hasn't posted on any other topic" Tell us all about those "in the know"
We'll see what you have to say after all the reports are in and the court cases are settled
FYI I've been a continuos USCA member for 10+ years. How long have you been a member "JEB"?
Your information about me and my old club is as accurate as your "first hand information" about the
Hex situation. Hex was hit by a truck the day he went missing andl laid in the ditch for two weeks before he was found by someone looking for cans along the road..
The "why" of my Agenda is the TRUTH.
You and Molly can spin all you want till the TRUTH comes out.
Thomas Barriano
by Betty on 10 December 2011 - 05:12
If that's what happened Thomas I can't see how the final reports won't support your theory. And yes it is still a theory no matter how loud you yell it or how many times you repeat it.
OUt of curioiosity since you have brought up members posting on other topics have you? I know you joined a while back but did you post?
OUt of curioiosity since you have brought up members posting on other topics have you? I know you joined a while back but did you post?
by jax_spader on 10 December 2011 - 09:12
Thomas,
I have read the INCOMPLETE report posted on Grassroots and you have stretched the truth, twisted it and turned it until it suits your agenda. Which is WHAT may we ask? oh, others have already asked. Sounds like you may have a vested interest in the outcome.
It shows you to have 51 posts in a little over 2 yrs of which over 40 of them are on the topic of HEX and other personal business pertaining to his owner. An observation which others have noticed prior to myself. If you were to be on the the outside looking in - would you see a red flag?
FYI : I drive a white van and so does my wife and as a matter of fact we have 3 white vans. (?)
Jax
I have read the INCOMPLETE report posted on Grassroots and you have stretched the truth, twisted it and turned it until it suits your agenda. Which is WHAT may we ask? oh, others have already asked. Sounds like you may have a vested interest in the outcome.
It shows you to have 51 posts in a little over 2 yrs of which over 40 of them are on the topic of HEX and other personal business pertaining to his owner. An observation which others have noticed prior to myself. If you were to be on the the outside looking in - would you see a red flag?
FYI : I drive a white van and so does my wife and as a matter of fact we have 3 white vans. (?)
Jax
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