Senseless - Page 4

Mi governor has already cost the people in that state a lot of money so the squeeze will be on social programs. BTW, the republicans in the house tried to sharply cut reduced/free lunches recently. They really are out of touch with social needs and should be ashamed of themselves.

http://www.fns.usda.gov/nslp/national-school-lunch-program-nslp

 

I don't know where you are getting this stuff. Nothing on the web about such claims, either.

The National School Lunch Program is a federally assisted meal program operating in public and nonprofit private schools and residential child care institutions. It provides nutritionally balanced, low-cost or free lunches to children each school day. The program was established under the National School Lunch Act, signed by President Harry Truman in 1946.

 

@dshlerner, I lived in the ghetto. Why? Because I was rich and had white privilege? In fact, I was a minority as I was probably the only white person in the whole South Ward. I have no understanding? Yeah, living there and working there didn't give me any insight. You remind me of the white teachers who work with my black wife in an inner city school. They think she is too strict and actually said that maybe she doesn't understand where the kids are coming from. Because she refuses to fall for the media and race baiting narrative and holds her students accountable and doesn't tolerate poor behavior (in other words she holds minority students to the same standards as white students) she somehow doesn't know what it's like to be black. And why doesn't she fall for the narrative? It's not because she was raised in some mostly white suburb. It's because she knows that if she does what a bunch of enablers do her students will not have a future outside of the ghetto. You want to know how often she comes home and tells me how embarrassed she is as a black person because of the behavior of black students and parents? But what does she know, right? She only grew up poorer than the kids she teaches, as there is American poor and the rest of the world poor. But she now has a college education and a career. She didn't get that by being influenced by ghetto culture and willingly accepting the role of victim.

Then there is her mother who at one time had a job plucking chickens and then got a job in a clothing factory and worked her way up to accounting, without a college education. She moved to the states and got a college degree, while working and raising a family, and got an even better job. Let's see, a black woman from outside the US, does something that most black women from the US don't do. What's the difference? Could it be culture? The same culture that made my wife live a life that is not typical of most American black women? So let's not act like there isn't a ghetto culture. Not all blacks share that culture but in the ghetto a significant number do. Corey Booker did not share the same cultural values as many of the people of Newark when he became mayor. Sharpe James actually accused him of not being black enough. But the fact that not all blacks share the same values only makes the ghetto culture appear more evident.

As for the rest of what you posted, it really misses the point. Are college students out there pimping underage girls? Are they selling drugs to kids? Are they murdering one another? A few days ago in CA a 9 year old was murdered along with his 26 year old father and his 25 year old friend. The friend was just out of prison and was a gang member. He was the intended target but the person who walked up behind him to shoot him shot all three. Are you comparing that behavior, which happens every day in Chicago, to a soccer mom using coke? A day after the police shot someone in Minnesota a baby was killed and another injured by gun fire from gangs in Minneapolis. Is that comparable to a college student? The people who are committing these stupid acts of violence are the products of the ghetto. They were the same people who were my neighbors. The same people I tried to educate. The same people, ex cons, who I hung out with in the park. The same people who killed someone in front of my house. But what do I know, right?

At least you admit that the absence of cops wouldn't change anything, although I would argue it would get worse. We have Baltimore as an example. If there were more cops in the suburbs arresting soccer moms what would change? There would be fewer shootings from those crazy soccer moms? What would change for the ghetto if soccer moms went to prison? Nothing. And that's your problem. I want things to get better for blacks because I have a personal interest in that because my kid is black. You want to divert attention to white people and the crimes they commit but what does that do for black people? Nothing. There is no point to it.

If a 12 year old is pointing a gun at me and my family and I have a choice, I can kill him or he will kill my family, what do I do? I can know all of the reasons why he is where is, that is, pointing a gun at me. Regardless of how much I understand about the circumstances that brought him to that point, I have to deal with the reality of knowing it's me and my family or him. The point? We know why the ghetto is the ghetto but knowing that doesn't change it. If you have cancer does it matter more to you how you got it or how to cure it? By focusing on police violence as the single most important issue facing blacks we ignore the other issues which are much more significant. By telling blacks they are not to blame for the state of affairs in the inner cities we deprive them of the power to change their lives. That is the problem with the regressive left agenda. It tells black people they are not to blame while keeping them dependent on the benevolence of the government and "good" white people. What a strange world it is when telling a black person he has the capacity for self actualization is somehow racist.

I have a feeling that the picture of the white family is a joke. They aren't even practicing proper trigger discipline.

Beetree, the governor stopped it for a while and there was such an uproar over it, it was restarted.  Funny I can't find anything about it either which is strange because I was sent the links to the news article where it was written about and the links are broken, they were to reputable sites.  Hmmmmmm

Republicans have a tendency to take aim at programs for the underprivileged, poor, single parent, etc.  Sorry, just a simple fact of their policies.   Not saying Democrates don't have their problems, just not targeting those in need as much.

Noitsyou - those photos were borrowed from a student I know who did a research project for her K-12 school class on how people are perceiving different races with guns.  It was a simple school project and she got some good data.  Now for it to be good valid research, each picture should contain the exact same backdrop, same aged children, same gender children (a boy and a girl), dressed in exactly the same clothing, placed in exactly the same positions with the same guns held the same way, the same expressions on their faces, and so on.  Then let's see what happens, it would be intersting........

 

That may be the case with how it was used but my reaction, had I been one of the subjects, would have been that the picture is obviously staged and may very well have been taken for satirical reasons. I should ask my daughter what she thinks of the three pictures. My guess is that she'll think they are all crazy.

Here is an example of how crazy things are:

"Black people," Lemon said, "if you really want to fix the problem, here's just five things that you should think about doing."

The No. 1 item on that list -- "and probably the most important," he said -- had to do with out-of-wedlock births.

"Just because you can have a baby, it doesn't mean you should," Lemon said. "Especially without planning for one or getting married first. More than 72 percent of children in the African-American community are born out of wedlock. That means absent fathers. And the studies show that lack of a male role model is an express train right to prison and the cycle continues."

Lemon’s commentary inspired a firestorm of criticism on social media -- the website Mediaite published a sampling -- and bloggers took aim at his conclusions.

"If Lemon really wanted to help the black community, he could start by adopting a deeper understanding of the history, sociology and psychology of his own people," wrote Washington Post blogger Rahiel Tesfamariam. "Offering made-for-TV analysis about deeply complex social issues in the manner in which he did is irresponsible and lacks intellectual rigor."

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/jul/29/don-lemon/cnns-don-lemon-says-more-72-percent-african-americ/

Don Lemon is black and he is questioned about his "blackness" for having an opinion that doesn't adopt the victimization tone that the regressive left follows. The idea, pushed by the left, that all blacks have to think the same way is just as racist as the idea that all blacks DO think the same way.

Noitsyou, good grief, that is simplifying something to the point it is no longer recognizable.  Women get pregnant all on their own? No man helps them?  Poor men are seduced just so a woman can get a baby?  Really, why is it  women are always the ones blamed for out of wedlock births........this type of mentality really annoys me.....

As for Don Lemon, he hasn't a clue and it is from a mysoginistic man, really now........

As for why many girls and women have sex, I could go into the psychological reasons for it based on abuse, neglect, incest, having been taught love is sex, the rape culture, the objectifying of women, sex trafficking. etc.  Let's pretend they use birth control, (cut out Planned Parenthood and you cut out affordable birth control and sex education) birth control is still 30-90% effective when used correctly but add in any antibiotic or other medication and the efficacy of birth control pills (the most effective) goes out the window.  Many boys and girls get no real sex education or it is from friends that haven't a clue.  I have heard so many methods of birth control that are simply old tales that have no foundation in reproductive health, I mean really, douche with a shaken up bottle of coca-cola???? Girl on top and semen will run out and not get a girl pregnant (from a grown man no less).  Absent fathers are because of the incredibly high incarceration rate that is disproportionate to population and the broken judicial system.  It is not "victimization tone" but real crap that is going on.  Yes there are those few who have either given up or who don't want to get out and prefer the easy money with crime.  But let's not paint the entire race with such a broad brush based on a few.

Also the birth rate among blacks and hispanics is at an all time low

http://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2016/p0428-teen-birth-rates.html

 

Mindhunt,

If you are going to be sorry, be so because your statement about Republicans "taking aim" to harm the poor, underprivileged, single, etc person is ridiculous. Certain impossible implementations and unfounded mandates are realities to political maneuvering.

That type of partisan attitude revealed in your statement is what creates divisiveness.

Anyone here familiar with the history of the Federal Arts program, Turnaround Kids? Who started it? Who is making it work today? You want to talk about something that does something empowering for the children they will have for improving their lives, that goes beyond acts of charity for minimum survival?

What we learn from these kids, who have such talent and reveal like a miracle, finally finding their voice within their art. How the dilemma to approach an offer to help them with supplies or money becomes something that can threaten them because the parent(s) are not engaged and often secretive for a myriad of reasons having to do with rules and laws of zoning or who knows what, that they won't be able to satisfy.

Those kids are the hope when given a vision of breaking themselves free from the death grip life of their family circumstances. There are other empowering programs focused on underprivileged minorities and children of color. I know one specifically for closing the gap in math and engineering for inner city kids, too.

Early learning programs for preschool kids while their moms learn to speak English. Outreach and prenatal programs for pregnant teens and to engage the fathers. There is still hope and help out there. when it comes to helping those in need, I personally, never bring politics into it.

@Mindhunt, Where did Don Lemon put all the blame on women when it comes to out of wedlock pregnancies? That's your bias betraying you.

I didn't look at your link but it said that it was teen birth rates, not out of wedlock birthrates. They are not the same thing.

Absent fathers are because of high incarceration rates (which implies high rates of criminality)? How do incarcerated men make babies? And were these men criminals before or after they got women pregnant? Meaning that maybe girls and women in the ghetto aren't making great choices when it comes to who they have sex with. In other words, were these men going to be fathers if they weren't in prison?

Also, when you listed all the reasons why women have sex you left out the racist cops and white people. This only supports my point that the key to black people getting out of poverty is found within.

Finally, there is something called common sense. If only a few people in Chicago were bad apples then it wouldn't be as bad as it is. It is a significant number of people who are to blame. I don't need common sense because I saw firsthand just how many people behave in ways that are detrimental to themselves and others. That's the myth that is put out. It's only a few people ruining it for everyone. Something like one person is murdered every 14 hours in Chicago and someone is shot every 2.5 hours. That isn't the work of a few people. And who is "raising" these young men to be killers of their own people? It isn't cops or white people.