Symbols on the American dollar bill - Page 4

GSD Admin Wrote: All you have is words. Words aren't proof of God.

If I will try with a different approach here! So you believe in naturalism right? Of course you do because you will ask me how logically the earth could be approx 6,000 years old. I hope readers mentally zooming in (an) two words “logic” and “naturalism” because those things don’t go together - I already talked about it in my other thread constantly mentioning VK4’s name …Nature is all that there is, you can’t have universal and material invariant entity like laws of logic. Well, first of all I don’t accept your belief in naturalism so I am not even going to attempt prove creation on your standard but for the sake of argument if naturalism were true, you couldn’t prove anything because you can’t have laws of logic if you are naturalist. I have a strong feeling you would say laws of logic are material; they are chemical reactions in the brain. Well, if they are material – there are not laws, and they wouldn’t be universal because they wouldn’t extend beyond your skull if they are just in your brain and we wouldn’t have same laws of logic between two people, because we would all have a different chemical reaction in the brain, so that doesn’t make sense, but it is possible you can say they are not material but they are descriptions of material things, they are descriptions how the brain thinks but if laws of logic were simply descriptions how brain thinks why would we need laws of logic to correct the way brain thinks; right? I mean you not always think logically but if laws of logic were simply a description how you think you couldn’t ever violate one because you would always think the way of you think, Yes? But we are not always think how God thinks; and that is your problem and that’s why you being irrational. But some folks on this forum may say laws of logic are a property of the universe that is the way universe is! But in my book of judgments that is not much of an answer but if they were actually property of the universe, well the universes changes with time, so you would expect laws of logic would change, they wouldn’t be invariant and universes are different in different places we would expect different part of the universe have different laws of logic and laws of logic don’t even describe the universe anyway, they are describing concepts, obstruct concepts and it doesn’t make sense to be a property of the universe. VK4 may say we use them because they work, but I know but that is not my question, my question how can you account for them in the evolutionary world view instead in the living word of God “Bible”…Of course they work because they are true - but why are they true? Why are these universal; invariant, obstruct, entities that we called laws of logic? I can account for that as a Christian and written in the Bible as you say they are just words that you object my dear GSDAdmin. You see, my secular friends cannot, they are happy to use something that does not make sense in there own position to support there own position.

Many of the U.S. presidents have been Freemasons. I believe that is the reason for the pyramid and eye. They are definitely Masonic symbols.

Someone is going to have to mosey on by and translate "Shtal speak" for me. I feel a headache coming on.

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Mrdarcy,

Sorry not to get back to you sooner, but I just woke up from my nap!    LOL

My busy weekend caught up to me with a vengence! I really do not recall having done this type of thing with RedS being the standard bearer! I did so want to have the opportunity to help out with certain numerology aspects that I found personally unique and possibly intriquing to this thread. 




 

Bee,

I will do my best to translate. How about blah, blah, blah blah and then to top it all off more blah - blah.

Shtal,

Believe in what you want, just don't expect me to drink the kool-aid.

** "While you're at it, check out the number 13.  13 owls, thirteen leaves, 13 berries, 13 colonies. 13 layers of brick."

-- 13 arrows, 13 letters, 13 stars, 13 grapes on the front, too much to mention  LOL

Notice how the Eagle has a tight grip on PEACE and WEAPONS !!!! 

YeeeHawww

Oh my,,Travels that was quite a mouth full.
Shtal says too much no doubt, and RS does love a good conspiracy,,,lol,,
But make no mistake Travels, you and no one else will be "writhing below",,for anything less then how you have offended God, Period, not man/woman/or beast,,,Did you listen to the sermon I posted on the Christian music thread by Jonathan Edwards entitled Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God?,,Just wondering,,,
 
 
Good post ruger1 except for the part: “Shtal says too much no doubt” which I strongly disagree…lol…:) But any way what I wanted to add something here…You see secular folks are blind to their bondage and slavery that they are under "sin" they are under bondage and slavery and don't know it and they get mad when you try to show them good example like VK4. But not only secular folks it’s true among Christians as well, when Jesus told these believers who was with Jesus that they cannot be his disciples unless they allowed his word to brake their sins, they got offended, look at (John 8:31-32) and Jesus said to those Jews which believed on him, right of it says What?? "IF" he froze in from of them big IF "If ye continue in My Word, then ye are My disciples indeed. Ye shall know the truth and the truth shall make you free. And Jesus is referring them in bondage, he would have never said come to my truth and be free if they were not in bondage, it's right there very clearly, what Jesus is saying, you saying you believing in me but you are not free, you are still bout, if you are believe in me you must obey my word and continuing my word and fact the better translation is simply these "Whosoever practices sin is the servant" Look at (John 8:34), Jesus answered them "Whosoever committith sin is the servant of sin" That doesn't mean you commit one sin but he who practices sin is a slave to sin Jesus is saying. But I mean these people they were horrified, they were angry “similar anger VK4 resembles”; they said what do you mean bondage?? What do you mean sin?? We never were in bondage to anybody. Look at (John 8:33) they answered him "We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?" What do you mean their sin in my life, what do you mean I am not a child of God, what you mean I am taking a direction from the devil “similar like VK4 taking directions from devil” rather than from God. And that's what Jesus tells them, you are going to see it very, very clearly here. They would say to Jesus, but master you told one of us, Nicodemus who is one of us, (John 3:16-17) you told Nicodemus who shall ever believeth and you shall not perish but will have everlasting life for God send had not his son to condemn world but the world through him might be saved. And they are saying, Jesus we believe, we stand on your word, you said we believe we saved and you won't condemn us, we are your righteousness, and Jesus would have to comeback to them said, wait a minute I also told Nicodemus something else and if that something else that people don't want, its that something else, its that big IF that Jesus puts their, before all believers he said you didn't quote me right, you see you go down from (John 3:16, John 3:17) and you go to (John 3:19) And this is what you get...Man loved darkness “like VK4” rather than light because their deeds are evil, (John 3:20-21) "Everyone that does evil hates the light, they will not come to the light, lest their deeds should be exposed or reproved, but he hath do it truth cometh to the light that his deeds may be manifest that they are wrought in God." He said if you gonna say you are believe in me, I am the light, you gonna come to me, and let me expose everything it’s in your life that I can change you. And if you won't come to me and accept my word and continuing the word and let my word continuously purge you and work in you, then you are not my disciple, you can't be my disciple he said. You can't say you believe in me unless you take all my word and let it work in you. Let the word of God cleanse, let the word of God work in you, let the word of God do it; and according to Jesus. Now listen closely no one is a true believer until the word has a place in his heart, and these are very words the Jesus uses, a place in a heart, until the word is both caret to you, hooked to you, until you committed obey every word that perceives out of mouth of God, until the word exposes and brakes the bondage of sin and condition and false doctrine. We have an easy "belief system" believing amount many Christians folks today, many say just believe and now be saved and many Christians block-off the whole rest of the Bible, we just market it all up, just as they did as they would say, well you told Nicodemus just believe and you won't condemn us, won't even talk about walking in the light, resisting the devil in which he will run away from you. To these believers Jesus said you seek to kill me because my word has no place in you. They said, they were flared, what you mean?? We are saying we believe in you, and Jesus replied or said you are out to kill me. Now in our time we say we don't do things like that? How would that ever apply?? Or yes we do that...He is the word isn't he?? Jesus is the word and when we are not accepted it like VK4 and we drove it out, we put Jesus Christ a fresh to open sin, we crucified the son of God, like crucifying his word; driving out of our lives. Jesus is saying to them you cannot be endure my word because you never lay down your sin you still take orders from Satan, you do that which you have seen with your father. Can you imagine Jesus telling that pointing finger lovely at these people, these Jews, he saying you are doing what your father the devil tells you to do, you never separated from the world, you still do it, you have your old habits / your old ways, you hang-up to your old traditions. Many may not like it but listen close, I believe with all of my heart a great majority in the church today who called themselves believers in Christ, have never, never been saved; they never been touched by the holy spirit because they love darkness, in which secular folks can always point finger at Christian folks and doubt the Bible.
 

GSD Admin,

Thank you. I had a feeling that was what he was trying to say. How it all fits in with symbols on the American dollar bill, well, that is just one more mystery to solve. Frankly, I've lost the will to continue with such a pursuit, this fine morning.

God, Jesus, Christianity, religeon, bible passages, blah, blah, blah...........done to death, that's what I meant Beetree, now where was I again??? ah yes,zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Red Sable, I apologies that this thread went of course, but since GSD Admin refused to answer Ruger1 question about why God would or wouldn't keep score card of people sins, well if GSD Admin believes that his God started life through evidence animal eating each other, evidence of diseases like brain tumors, cancer and arthritis, millions of years of fossil diseases; so in his book of judgment it is not a big deal if people sin because his God is not God of perfection.

"GSD Admin refused to answer Ruger1 question about why God ,,,,,,"

Shtal,,GSD isn't obligated to answer mine or anyones else's question..I am not concerned so don't you be..;)