What To Expect From A Breeding Like This - Page 4

Haz......I didn't look at the male in question so can't comment on him.

But, if you had a clue what SAR certified dogs had to go through to become Nationally certified (with NASAR for ex.)  you wouldn't ask that question.

Got a clue and its not enough. If the dog hasnt done bitework you dont know enough to do a breeding.

Ever heard the usual "well I decided to wash him out and start him in SAR" I do all the time ...LOL.  If a lab can do it its clearly not enough of a test of breed quality for a GSD.

HAZ.....I've never heard that statement.......disappointing that you have.

IMO.....If a dog washes out in IPO he isn't' going to have the drives or courage needed to do SAR work successfully. The same is true of an IPO dog.....if he doesn't have the temperament to do SAR work he isn't breed worthy either (all other breed requirements being equal).

To bad the USA has such a stigma against SAR dogs doing bite work of any kind.

Show the SAR dog handling pressure from a man I would bet good money 90% are gone.  Its simply not the same.  Plenty of single purpose dogs that arent capable of dual purpose work, those dog have hunt drive and environmental stability. Still many arent capable of dual purpose work..Not breedworthy.

Once again if a lab can do it, its not an adequate test of breed worthiness.

HAZ,

You said... "Once again if a lab can do it, its not an adequate test of breed worthiness.".   So does that mean that IPO isnt a test of breed worthiness? 

I have seen several labs do SchH (or IPO, whatever it is called). In fact in the early 2000's (I believe) there was a Chesapeak Bay Retriever that was at the SchH3 Nationals..  

Just sayin'....

so a line of labs that can produce a high percentage of dogs for the blind or detection dogs are somehow less of a working dog than a dog that has an IPO title which i can pay somebody to put on just about any dog in no time flat.