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by The Good Shepherd Farm on 29 November 2013 - 18:11
Steer clear of a man named Bob Fox....... he is located in ohio. He makes claims of being a trainer and claims he trained with Dean...... but if you talk with him you will clearly see his knowledge base is limited to only what he can google. As far as decent Al Gill in Northern Ohio has had some nice dogs but i cant speak to his training style or quaility of club.
by roblew1 on 29 November 2013 - 19:11
I second stay away from Bob Fox!!!!!!!
by SKI on 02 December 2013 - 18:12
Doublecheck on availability on clubs. Some of the USCA clubs mentioned are full and not accepting new members.
by ShelleyR on 07 December 2013 - 15:12
I have yet to figure out exactly WHAT a "Master Trainer" is. LOL
by Keith Grossman on 09 December 2013 - 10:12
"I have yet to figure out exactly WHAT a "Master Trainer" is. LOL"
It's the dog world equivalent of what they refer to in professional fishing as, "master baiter."
It's the dog world equivalent of what they refer to in professional fishing as, "master baiter."
by Jenni78 on 09 December 2013 - 11:12
When I was selling wholesale auto parts to large conglomerates, there was a contest for wiper blade sales and the winner was the "Master Blader." I think the prestige attached to both titles is about equal. 
by Slamdunc on 09 December 2013 - 14:12
There absolutely is a "Master Trainer" title, although Helser definitely does not have one. Most state and the national Police K-9 organizations have certified "Master Trainers." You can look up NAPWDA, which is one of the governing or certifying agencies for Police K-9 teams. Master Trainers are the ones that over see training and yearly certifications for K-9 teams. All of our dogs certify in both Utility / Patrol and Detection work each year, the Master Trainer conducts the certification tests or trial. A true "Master Trainer" certification is not an easy designation to get.
by Jenni78 on 09 December 2013 - 15:12
The problem is not with the certifying body, so much as the problem is in those who decide to put the ADJECTIVE of "master" instead of reserving the spot for the TITLE of "Master Trainer." There most definitely IS a title, but 9/10th of those touting it, aren't.
by Hired Dog on 09 December 2013 - 16:12
The question then becomes, who "certifies" the "Master" trainer as a Master trainer? These titles in my opinion are all bogus since there is no International or even National accredited school that you can attend for 4 or 8 years and get your degree/title.
There are all types of organizations out there that will certify a dog or you or both, for the right fee. The certs are there for liability purproses, in case the dog screws up. If you know how to train a dog, titles mean absolutely nothing, your ability does.
There are all types of organizations out there that will certify a dog or you or both, for the right fee. The certs are there for liability purproses, in case the dog screws up. If you know how to train a dog, titles mean absolutely nothing, your ability does.
by Slamdunc on 09 December 2013 - 18:12
Hired Dog,
We are talking about different things.
We are talking about different things.
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