The Ultimate Proof of Creation - Dr. Jason Lisle - Page 4

Gouda I know what ;you think   After 70 years on this earthly path of which 55 of them IHS  I Believe , that somewhere  beyond the Bllue, in the great somewhere , A flower grows

It has been fed , it has been watered....the seed got planted not by me, but it grew because it was fertilized

Yesterday in the sky of Lake Charles I saw one of God's Wonderful messages ;   here it is?

                                                                  


YR

 

gouda, what makes your fairy-tale more true than the teachings of islam, buddha, hindu, mormon, scientology, satanism, witchcraft, the flying spaghetti monster......and so on for the possible thousands of differing fairy-tales and creation myths.

how do you know, you are right?


please explain to this seeker.



YR, your "message" is better explained by the known and proven principles of refraction, dispersion, propagation of light thru matter etc....there were rainbows millions of years before the jewish or christian bibles were written, what were they a message of then?? just askin

or did i miss your point - the message was "dialysis" a life saving "miracle" of man for man, you won't learn how to save someones life with that technology by reading the bible, but you can pray for them. i mean lets be fair and reasonable adults here.

Wonderful indeed,serving the God of creation,what could be more joyful.

    gouda

appreciating the fact that you are an animal that has evolved and will one day return to the nothing from which you came and still making the most of it i feel is better than worshipping a big daddy boogie man in the sky that does not exist for starters.

VK.

Did any of those die and raise themselves from the dead?

  gouda

those which??

please clarify

SSDD

Enough has been said, it's all been said before, there is nothing new here.
Now it's just a bore.

Moons.

Dedicated to VK4......

 

Carlin wrote: I think I object more to the way in which shtal presents things.  I don't think that you can come to the table with "proof" of what you believe in faith (no matter what the orientation), and challenge others with it from a lofty position.  I'm not sure he intends this, but it seems to be what happens.  There is a way to bring up the subject matter for productive discussion I think.  "Ultimate proof of creation" may not be the best way to open that discussion, unless of course, a combative argument is what you're after.

I want to repost something that I already said this long time ago. Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word. The laws of physics don’t change law of physics we see today same were in the past; we don’t know everything there is about light and everything there is to know about space, and we have to be careful what we say what we know and more than what’s God word says. God gave us two books, the book of scripture and the book of nature; we should research and study both, and developing testable Biblical creation model and show people, how creation could / can be tested, classified and of course actually more successfully predicts of scientific discoveries.
That said, we would never say that God says brain tumor is a cancer “very good”, okay; but if someone believes in millions of years “fossil record millions of years old” and in the fossil records supposedly millions of years before man, there is evidence brain tumor, cancer and thorns, Bible says thorns came after the curse, you see what I am saying on bases of authority scripture that fossil record has to come after sin, because it is a fallen world. If someone believe in millions of years, but you got millions of years; you got death, diseases that you see in the fossil record, animals eating each other, you know what Genesis1, 29-30 says, Adam and Eve to eat fruit and animals where vegetarian, and Genesis 9:3 after the flood - God said just as I gave you the plants, emphasizing that word that they were vegetarian, now I give you the animals, now I give you everything and Genesis 1:30 written the same way, animals where vegetarian…People got fossil record animals eating each other, bones in there stomach, evidence of illness – you got cancer, and all sort of diseases and bones in the fossil record. How all of this exists before sin? God said everything was very good at the time of creation, “and illness” that’s the result after sin; I suggest most of the fossil are the result of the flood. The Graveyard of the flood cries out to us that God had judged sin and he judged sin with death and he judged the weakness of man.

 

Btw Carlin, I respect and agree how Dr. Jason Lisle presents things.

Here is the list of creationists that I respect including Dr. Jason Lisle in this same list.

Shtal, each and every one of those you trust have been proven over and over and over again to be bald-faced liars.  That speaks volumes, 'nuff said.  Try a little bit of honesty, it goes a long, long way.