Irresponsible Breeding and no Ethics. - Page 4

I never thought I would Join this group or post, but i read them and his has been interesting and outrageous. I have heard about Mrs Strange and her exploits and its great to read the truth has come out at last, she and her fellow conspirators should be ashamed of this escapade, lies and deceit achieve nothing in the long run. I would advIse Mrs Strange and the Leadbeaters to come on here and put the record straight or maybe the alias sam jarram speaks for them. 

Duster, to be fair, I don't think Nina Strange OR the Leadbetters
​have told lies about it;  they just haven't been forthcoming with
the facts about a breeding  (which ought not to have taken place).

Most of this thred has been done 'by proxy', by people involved in a
mess around the ABC and the National Club.  

I do not condone this mating, or other bad breeding practises, and
I am glad the truth about this litter is out,  but to say the primaries
lied is too strong, when they themselves have not directly contributed
to the topic.

However I do believe that ANYONE who, now or in the past, subscribed
to the National GSD Club's promoted aims for members of using the
available health schemes is pretty  hypocritical if they then go ahead
in production of pups where the sire or dam are already shown to be
questionable in the light of those schemes.

Hundmutter you are correct nina strange nor the leadbetters have been on here and told lies but by their ignorance of the now confirmed facts and still not commenting they obviously don't give a fig about the health and welfare of German Shepherds. Well i do condone this mating and other bad breeding practices as should you. Those involved knew that the dam had a dreadful hip score of 80 and had produced progeny with terrible scores so why go and mate her again and put even more suspect dogs into their gene pool, greedy hypocrites. Well its too late now the litter is Registered , I feel sorry for the puppies and their new owners, in 12 months time if they bother to have the hips x-rayed and find the results to be equally as bad as the dam they should not breed from them, or will they ?, if she has kept one will it be bred from regardless ?. By the way I see nina strange is quite happy to go on the great gsd debate on facebook and comment drible but is too embarressed to come on here and face facts. 

Duster.....neither myself nor Hundmutter agree with this mating.......Have a look on the ALSATIAN BREED CAMPAIGN......there is a webpage for this n they also have a fb.community page n a CLOSED grp.for the alsatian breed campaign that did have a link to their new club......The national gsd club.......spoken of by the OP.WUSVNFAC.........Their spokesperson a Mr.Philip Kellingley  states that the most worrying health aspects of gsd is THE BACKLINE OF THE INTERNATIONAL TYPE..........not such conditions as EPILEPSY,which according to him.....hasnt been proved to be inherited in gsds.......other inherited conditions such as DM,EPI,AF,HD/ED,,JRD,PD,AUTO IMMUNE conditions  etc.are NOT even mentioned.I honestly believe that its only a few who disregard such issues ,the others being mearly followers of those who think themselves as the "TOP FISH"in a very small pond.Since breaking away from the UK club/South Yorks Alsatian club,they are without the champ.shows,as most general ch.show soc.are now promoting judges who judge to a more correct to the standard gsd,those without exagerration either way.ITS ALL ABOUT TYPE NOT HEALTH.Carole S.