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by beetree on 26 November 2010 - 22:11
What if it is described as, "Bring your knee up only so the dog does not jump onto your chest, but natually slides off your leg instead. Then turn and walk away in the other direction, basically ignoring the dog" . It is hoped that the dog will learn that jumping on people will be associated with getting no attention.
Phil, would that be irresponsible advice? Would it damage untold numbers of dogs and newbies?
Phil, would that be irresponsible advice? Would it damage untold numbers of dogs and newbies?
by Phil Behun on 26 November 2010 - 23:11
No, and I don't say ouch and leave the room either when a young dog bites me. What you are teaching is if your dog wants to posses something, all it has to do is jump and you and it gets left alone and keeps what it wants. As the Guinness commercial would say,,,,,"Brilliant".
I also wouldn't take fine dining cooking instruction from a grill cook at McDonald's. Bobby Flay?? Yes,
I also wouldn't take fine dining cooking instruction from a grill cook at McDonald's. Bobby Flay?? Yes,
by Gemini on 26 November 2010 - 23:11
What Uber Land described is alot different than "kneeing". To me that is force like a kick. I wouldnt knee a dog to stop jumping. But I would lift my knee up so the dog jumps on my knee instead. If the dog jumps with enough force he will be surprised and it will shock him and hurt a little. It doesnt hurt to where it scares them or not even as worse as stepping on dogs paw but will work very fast along with verbals. I dont think that is harsh if other have different OPIONIONS share them.
Reggie
Reggie
by beetree on 26 November 2010 - 23:11
On another thread it was recommended that a jumping dog be given no attention upon being greeted by people when they come through a door. It actually does work for us common people. Some how I have a dog that used to jump on people but now, does not. (I only use the ecollar with my Invisible fence.)
And I haved only use the knee-up as a position, not a forceful block, it serves best as a way to keep the clothes clean, is all, untl the dog understands the desired behaviour. I am very postitive you would have achieved a non jumping dog in much more timely and correct manner, but I am still on my journey to becoming a consumate no-it-all!
And I haved only use the knee-up as a position, not a forceful block, it serves best as a way to keep the clothes clean, is all, untl the dog understands the desired behaviour. I am very postitive you would have achieved a non jumping dog in much more timely and correct manner, but I am still on my journey to becoming a consumate no-it-all!
by Slamdunc on 26 November 2010 - 23:11
Gemini.
Ok, so you gently raise your knee but the dog jumps very fast and hard and slams into your gently raised knee. What is the difference?
Jim
Ok, so you gently raise your knee but the dog jumps very fast and hard and slams into your gently raised knee. What is the difference?
Jim
by Uber Land on 26 November 2010 - 23:11
simple physics slamdunc.
whats the difference of hitting a parked car at 20 mph, then hitting a moving car at 20 mph? the moving object impact force is multiplied, then stationary objects impact is not.
whats the difference of hitting a parked car at 20 mph, then hitting a moving car at 20 mph? the moving object impact force is multiplied, then stationary objects impact is not.
by Phil Behun on 27 November 2010 - 00:11
So unless you run around hopping on one leg all day long, your leg will be moving toward the dog at time of impact thus increasing the velocity. Again, does your dog ALWAYS jump on you from the front?
Beetree, do you believe that someone should be criticized for improving and honing their craft? Should grade school dropouts chastise college students/graduates for moving on to higher education? Does knowing how to change the oil in your car compare you to an ASE Certified Mechanic? So I'm guessing you use a 3 lb. sledge and chisel to remove the drain plug from your oil pan?
Beetree, do you believe that someone should be criticized for improving and honing their craft? Should grade school dropouts chastise college students/graduates for moving on to higher education? Does knowing how to change the oil in your car compare you to an ASE Certified Mechanic? So I'm guessing you use a 3 lb. sledge and chisel to remove the drain plug from your oil pan?
by Red Sable on 27 November 2010 - 00:11
My dogs will slam in to each other, slam into cars, trees, you name it, when running full out playing and not make a squeak. I cringe on their behalf.
Some dogs may stop jumping up by ignoring, but mine sure didn't. And I tried it, for months
I tend to lift my knee out of self preservation.
Not that it works either. Mine will still jump on me occasionally when excited. If I could do it over again, with these two, I would squish it in the bud from day one. Obviously the O.P. can't do that.
It really depends on her dog and how sensitive it is, on how easy and quickly it will learn, OFF and as to what will work.
Some dogs may stop jumping up by ignoring, but mine sure didn't. And I tried it, for months
I tend to lift my knee out of self preservation.
Not that it works either. Mine will still jump on me occasionally when excited. If I could do it over again, with these two, I would squish it in the bud from day one. Obviously the O.P. can't do that.
It really depends on her dog and how sensitive it is, on how easy and quickly it will learn, OFF and as to what will work.
by Gemini on 27 November 2010 - 00:11
Slamdunc, big difference. That is why i never mentioned gently. Do you give your dog any kind of physical reprimand? No sarcasism honest question for an honest answer.
Reggie
Reggie
by Phil Behun on 27 November 2010 - 00:11
Several years ago, a friend of mine had 2 of her dogs running in the yard together. Charging to the fence, one of the dogs turned sideways to avoid slamming into the chain link. The second dog, unable to stop, ran into the side of the first, rupturing it's spleen and causing it's death before they could reach the vet.
How about the always impressive "Schutzhund Soccer Kick"???,,,,,,properly applied, it can fix anything from poor appetite to humping your leg.
How about the always impressive "Schutzhund Soccer Kick"???,,,,,,properly applied, it can fix anything from poor appetite to humping your leg.
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