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by fawndallas on 21 March 2013 - 16:03
You nailed him on the head JonRob. As requested:
Max:
Here is Rose, Max's mom.
Max:
Here is Rose, Max's mom.
by JonRob on 21 March 2013 - 16:03
Whatta guy! I love that face. He does look like he'd fit right in at a sports bar, jumping up and down and hollering for his team with his new buddies, doesn't he? He looks mighty pleased with himself and I'm happy to see that. I work with so many clients who have GSDs with lousy nerve that it's great to see some sass. Hope you're enjoying him as much as I would. And remember a dog who never embarrasses the heck out of you is a boring dog.
His mom is real pretty too. Does she have a similar temperament?
If anyone thinks a dog-social dog is a bad thing, please think about what happened to Sunsilver with the dog-aggressive GSD rescue she took in:
"An attempt to introduce Gracie to my quiet, older male GSD met with a massive fail, despite all the precautions we took. My groomer (and my friend) was badly hurt. She suffered several bites to her left hand, and may never regain full dexterity."
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/forum.read?mnr=710240-oshawa-ontario-canada-gorgeous-male-2-yrs-old-needs-experienced-owner-knows-commands
by Gustav on 21 March 2013 - 17:03
More foundation work in basic obedience......might have graduated to off leash commands a little too soon. good Luck.
by fawndallas on 21 March 2013 - 19:03
Yes, Rose and Max are almost identical in temperament. Max has a bit more "umph" to his attitude (part of the point of the stud I selected). Both are very laid back with not a care in the world. They would both buy beers for everyone until they are broke.
Lol, now Cirberus, Max's sister, is all pain in the A###.
She keeps everyone on their toes around here. Everyday and everything is a new adventure to her. If it runs, she chases; if it doesn't run and she wants it to, she will pester until it runs. She is my little drama queen. Nothing is done half way or without full body and energy. She goes until she drops from exhaustion. She clearly explains to everyone that she should be the center of attention; been like this from the day she was born.
Lol, now Cirberus, Max's sister, is all pain in the A###.
She keeps everyone on their toes around here. Everyday and everything is a new adventure to her. If it runs, she chases; if it doesn't run and she wants it to, she will pester until it runs. She is my little drama queen. Nothing is done half way or without full body and energy. She goes until she drops from exhaustion. She clearly explains to everyone that she should be the center of attention; been like this from the day she was born.
by Eldee on 21 March 2013 - 21:03
Maya and Max would have so much fun together!! They would be the ones that skipped gym class and would be out back having a smoke. Then off to the Lucky Clover for a few Budweisers and a game of pool!!
by Maxleia on 22 March 2013 - 06:03
Not quite as simple as dog-social and dog-aggresive I think. I have a Max that could best be described as dog-aloof-but if you interact with me you better be submissive-then we can play and be friends-else you getting nuked-socialish
Hi fawn,
Having been to hundreds of training classes in a park with a GSD, and other dogs running around like hooligans. It really is about as difficult as it can get for your dog. I had a pitbull come stand over Max while he was in a down stay, I got back and grabbed them both before my Max tucked in to the pitty. And another issue where a another shepherd was chasing him while he was doing a recall, I had to tell him to down and leave and else that shepherd was going to get bitten as well.
If I were you I would just get there early, walk him around the park beforehand, let him greet dogs you feel you trust, and then play etc if they want to. I used to go early and do laps around the park, rewarding him every time he payed me attention. Soon, we could do heel patterns through the park and all the dogs. When 'work' time starts, you demand his focus and attention, by whatever means you have to so you do not enforce his ignoring you in any way. By all means reward that focus then by letting him play with the dog he likes, for my Max that was Bella that fat bulldog. And as hard as it is to remain calm, if you get frustrated, you are better off going home.
Best of luck..
Hi fawn,
Having been to hundreds of training classes in a park with a GSD, and other dogs running around like hooligans. It really is about as difficult as it can get for your dog. I had a pitbull come stand over Max while he was in a down stay, I got back and grabbed them both before my Max tucked in to the pitty. And another issue where a another shepherd was chasing him while he was doing a recall, I had to tell him to down and leave and else that shepherd was going to get bitten as well.
If I were you I would just get there early, walk him around the park beforehand, let him greet dogs you feel you trust, and then play etc if they want to. I used to go early and do laps around the park, rewarding him every time he payed me attention. Soon, we could do heel patterns through the park and all the dogs. When 'work' time starts, you demand his focus and attention, by whatever means you have to so you do not enforce his ignoring you in any way. By all means reward that focus then by letting him play with the dog he likes, for my Max that was Bella that fat bulldog. And as hard as it is to remain calm, if you get frustrated, you are better off going home.
Best of luck..
by Hundmutter on 22 March 2013 - 09:03
Maxleia, thanks for the description of your Max's attitude, couldn't have
described my Taz better ! At least as far as other males is concerned.
He is quite happy in female company (although he ALWAYS starts by
trying it on with the 'humping' attempts then).
On the positive side of this topic, I'd like to record that I always had vast
amounts of help, goodwill and patience over the years in the public Parks
of South London, with an assortment of Shepherds, young and mature.
Some, like my bitch Vida, were not so temperamentally sound and could
be quite sharp with strange dogs and people; but there have always been
dog walkers/owners willing to give time and the participation of their better
socialised animals to assist with improving her behaviour; and for schooling
other less problematic dogs. I don't know if anyone will recognise themselves
on here, but I'd like to offer grateful Thanks in case they're reading this. And
to encourage Fawndallas, and others going through similar stuff. Dog people
can be quite wonderful sometimes.
described my Taz better ! At least as far as other males is concerned.
He is quite happy in female company (although he ALWAYS starts by
trying it on with the 'humping' attempts then).
On the positive side of this topic, I'd like to record that I always had vast
amounts of help, goodwill and patience over the years in the public Parks
of South London, with an assortment of Shepherds, young and mature.
Some, like my bitch Vida, were not so temperamentally sound and could
be quite sharp with strange dogs and people; but there have always been
dog walkers/owners willing to give time and the participation of their better
socialised animals to assist with improving her behaviour; and for schooling
other less problematic dogs. I don't know if anyone will recognise themselves
on here, but I'd like to offer grateful Thanks in case they're reading this. And
to encourage Fawndallas, and others going through similar stuff. Dog people
can be quite wonderful sometimes.
by Eldee on 22 March 2013 - 09:03
Thanks Maxieia:
What you describe above sounds perfect. In my opinion, it is a two way relationship between dog and human ( not a certified trainer human ). I'll give you a bit of what you want, then you give me a bit of what I want. Maya wanted a play time with her little puppy buddies so bad, but it was never allowed. I thought that was unfair and she would have done so much better in class had she had a chance to sniff and play and run. Then I would expect her to listen to me because I had let her have a bit of fun first. I just felt so bad that she needed some play time and the instructor would not allow any contact between pups, ever. She wasn't at all tired when we got there so she was a complete hellion. There was a time when I was early for class and I had Maya on the agility course running up and down the ramps, through the tunnels, little jumps and we had so much fun and she loved it. I got yelled at though, and told I wasn't allowed to be there with my dog. I think I really have a bad taste in my mouth when it comes to training classes.
What you describe above sounds perfect. In my opinion, it is a two way relationship between dog and human ( not a certified trainer human ). I'll give you a bit of what you want, then you give me a bit of what I want. Maya wanted a play time with her little puppy buddies so bad, but it was never allowed. I thought that was unfair and she would have done so much better in class had she had a chance to sniff and play and run. Then I would expect her to listen to me because I had let her have a bit of fun first. I just felt so bad that she needed some play time and the instructor would not allow any contact between pups, ever. She wasn't at all tired when we got there so she was a complete hellion. There was a time when I was early for class and I had Maya on the agility course running up and down the ramps, through the tunnels, little jumps and we had so much fun and she loved it. I got yelled at though, and told I wasn't allowed to be there with my dog. I think I really have a bad taste in my mouth when it comes to training classes.
by fawndallas on 22 March 2013 - 12:03
That could have been it. We got to the class just as it was starting and Max had no chance to get his bearings and energy play out. As this was my 1st time to the facility, all of my leeway was eaten up in traffic. I intend to get there about 30 minutes before class. I have also picked up some hotdogs and salami for high value treats (mouth watering value 
). Next week should go better.
). Next week should go better.by Eldee on 22 March 2013 - 16:03
Please keep us posted on training session 2. I'll bet if you tire him out first he will be an angel, unless he is like Maya, and there is no such word as tired.
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