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by GSDNewbie on 13 March 2013 - 17:03
I agree and this is why I would love to see a certification/ testing in place for all service dogs and their handlers. I also know as a service dog handler what people allow around or do to your service dogs and yes it can make us cranky at times :) I was not there. I still think it can be worked out so the woman does not loose her dog and think both should maybe take some responsibility and work together as I suggested.
by jackie g on 13 March 2013 - 19:03
Just wanted to update everyone on the resolution....
My Grandmother's dog has been allowed back in the building but must be an "apartment dog" and is only allowed in common areas as it passes through to be taken outside. The manager said they did extensive interviews with people who were present at the last altercation and the stories differed. Most said there was no contact between the two dogs, just barking, while at least one (I'm guessing the other owner) said there was contact. Because there is no proof, they felt evicting my grandmother's dog was too harsh and are now just requiring that he be in the apartment at all times (except when entering or exiting the building). This man has other complaints on record about grandma's dog barking at his dog but they've told him "too bad, dogs bark" up to this point.
Supposedly the man is going to provide paperwork that proves the dog is ADA certified but they told me I am not allowed to receive a copy of it. One staff member there indicated that his disability has to do with mental health issues so I don't know exactly what the dog is used for yet. And in a bit of irony, after our meeting with the management we passed the man as we got off the elevator (grandma's dog was still at my house) and he was not with his dog. I have told her to stay completely clear of him and if she sees that he is in the building to go back to her apartment. The man is definitely out to get her and one of the staff members indicated that was true. So hopefully there will be no more issues because this is the last warning. I don't know what the man's beef with the dog is because it is honestly the sweetest little dog ever.
And yes, her dog is always on a leash. It does not run the apartment building. I know, i know, in this case she let go of the leash so the dog could go see a friend who had just returned to the building after a long absence. Stupid on her part but certainly not worth losing her dog over when there were no injuries.
My Grandmother's dog has been allowed back in the building but must be an "apartment dog" and is only allowed in common areas as it passes through to be taken outside. The manager said they did extensive interviews with people who were present at the last altercation and the stories differed. Most said there was no contact between the two dogs, just barking, while at least one (I'm guessing the other owner) said there was contact. Because there is no proof, they felt evicting my grandmother's dog was too harsh and are now just requiring that he be in the apartment at all times (except when entering or exiting the building). This man has other complaints on record about grandma's dog barking at his dog but they've told him "too bad, dogs bark" up to this point.
Supposedly the man is going to provide paperwork that proves the dog is ADA certified but they told me I am not allowed to receive a copy of it. One staff member there indicated that his disability has to do with mental health issues so I don't know exactly what the dog is used for yet. And in a bit of irony, after our meeting with the management we passed the man as we got off the elevator (grandma's dog was still at my house) and he was not with his dog. I have told her to stay completely clear of him and if she sees that he is in the building to go back to her apartment. The man is definitely out to get her and one of the staff members indicated that was true. So hopefully there will be no more issues because this is the last warning. I don't know what the man's beef with the dog is because it is honestly the sweetest little dog ever.
And yes, her dog is always on a leash. It does not run the apartment building. I know, i know, in this case she let go of the leash so the dog could go see a friend who had just returned to the building after a long absence. Stupid on her part but certainly not worth losing her dog over when there were no injuries.
by Kinolog on 13 March 2013 - 19:03
If I were you, I would contact the ADA Coalition for assistance. There are also different laws regarding service/assistance dogs. The same ones apply to them in different ways. Service dogs are not subject to the same dog bite penalties, especially if the other dog was not completely in the person's control, they approached the dog and knew it was a service animal, etc. Also check specific state and city statutes. However all federal laws trump state ones.
by Xeph on 13 March 2013 - 20:03
Supposedly the man is going to provide paperwork that proves the dog is ADA certified but they told me I am not allowed to receive a copy of it.
This isn't possible. The ADA is a law, not an organization. And there is no certifcation required in this country, so legally, it wouldn't mean anything anyway.
This isn't possible. The ADA is a law, not an organization. And there is no certifcation required in this country, so legally, it wouldn't mean anything anyway.
by fawndallas on 13 March 2013 - 23:03
I am glad all worked out for your grandmother. It is truly the best solution for her. Going up against service dog / handicap can be very tricky and hard to prove you (the non-handicap person) were discriminated against.
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