My Rant; Your Precious Obamacare - Page 4

If you want the Government to control your entire life then I guess you would like OvomitCare...

It's no different from the "Gun Control" that's going on or tried...It has NOTHING to do with guns...It has everything to do with Controling your life...When you have no way of protecting yourself from the Government...The Government can and will do whatever they wish with you...

With OvomitCare...when you're old enough (at a certain age)...There will be no HeathCare for you...If you need a hip replacement or the such...It's too bad...You're too old to be of any use to the government so you WILL NOT receive any help...Well...OK...You will receive some help...Help in ending your life...!

The unique thing about OvomitCare is that NO one that voted for it...Senators...Congressmen...The president... ... ...None of these people will required to be covered by the same Health Care System...In fact they're never required to be under the same rules as the people the vote in stuff for...I think that's just amazing...

I'd say someone that thinks those scenerios are  unique to "Ovomitcare" doesn't have a real good grasp of what is happening and has been happening in the health insurance world for quite some time.  

well working in the center of the healthcare industry i can tell you one of the changes that we are expecting....and this is a fact and direct "rule" of the new health care govnt goals.

this is the example that was given to us during presentation.

A person is admitted to ER with severe headache, nurse ask pain level, pain level stated by pt is 10 (we all know that your 10 may be different than my 10, but regardless)...nurse enters code (part of new CPT10) and she gets a check off list of all procedures to be performed. which will include: blood test, stress test - (to elevate your heart rate) and CT scan....now i can tell you a CT scan alone is $1,200.00, than radiologist reading the test $500.00.

now we were all like..WHAT???  its a head ache, give him/her ibuprofen.

than followed the explanation: part of NEW and IMPROVED government plan is that it will be a uniform and fair across the board treatment - meaning you don't need a doctor to ask you, were you drinking last night? were you banging your head against the wall, are you stressed, and it takes professional opinion out of the equation, so person with a tumor on the brain and a hang over will receive the same treatment, they will also receive a same bill.....sounds promising right? well...not to physicians because now from having 3 ER docs we are down to 1 who will just review all post test results and say no tumor, no elevated blood records, no stress - here is a prescription for ibuprofen....and thats all the doc will do...now don't think that healthcare facilities, hospitals or doctor offices want that...they do not, they do not believe that a pre-created check off list of all procedures is better than them, however unless those forms are completed, unless pt. gets a survey with satisfying results any government insurance will not be paying, however  you as a facility will be receiving bonuses every year for following the "procedures" now the catch is here....ER cannot turn you down if you have insurance or not, docs won't know what kind of insurance you have or if you even have one that info restricted to registration personnel so guess what you will be treated the same as if you had govn't insurance meaning your guess of a diagnosis will dictate what will be done to you and what you will pay, if your commercial insurance decided that something that was done was not deemed necessary  (meaning if you stated my head ache is pain level 2 and here you are in ER trying to save a buck) they will not pay, at that point its between you and your insurance and ER is not responsible for it....
this plan will take years to be completed and put into action but that is the goal of obamacare to provide "fair" treatment across the board.

this is in a nut shell...now you decide how u feel about it....

Don't know how much of this is really the results or Obamacare or smoke and mirrors by the medical world who stands to lose the  most money when Obamacare is phased in, Ladyfrost, but Im going to try to find out. The medical world has told us many times already they hate Obamacare, but do we really know why? Less time on the golf course maybe? A smaller bottom line?

I think we need to make up our minds what we want from a health care provider. Do we want equal treatment for everyone or do we want only those with those high end policies receiving the best diagnostic and medical treatment?  If you go to the ER while you're suffering from a severe headache and are sent home with aspirins and later become a veggie due to an undiagnosed aneurism wouldn't it be a little disconcerning to learn that the attorney in the next exam room also suffering a severe headache had a more extensive diagnostic workup than yours and is home recovering from aneurism surgery?  Selective treatment is BS, everyone should get the same care based on their symptoms and history, not the opinion of a triage doctor or nurse. This has been an ongoing problem with the health care in this country. Couple selective treatment with the notion that hospitals should be businesses run by corportations.  Remember when you doctor lived next door or just around the corner and his kid went to school with  yours? When did doctors stop making housecalls and delivering babies at home with a less higher rate of infections or fatalities than those born in hospitals today.Where are the neighborhood doctor who used to let their patients without insurance pay them in installments?

The health care industry is big business these days and that is what has put it where it is today, not  Obamacare or Bush or Regan. American greed is the driver for the medical world. That is what needs to change...good luck with that happening.

Ovomitcare, how amusing (if you're a teenager).

BTW if you want to know the truth about "aging out" per Obamacare, read this link. If you'd rather believe what you read on Breitbart, don't waste your time. Your choice.

http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2010/jun/07/dan-fanelli/fanellis-video-suggests-obamacare-will-cut-treatme/

It's called being a doctor, you don't treat every headache as an aneurysm, you use what you learned and work from there.  I am not at all convinced that the above scenerio is anything more than somebody's vivid imagination at work.  I hardly believe that the OPQRST is going to abandoned in favor of you have this symptom?  run this battery of tests format.

Not to say that most ER scenerios haven't become close to that already I guess.  For most of the large groups that treat by insurance level rather than the patient in front of them, yeah, change might not be welcomed.  For the rest of the providers, and really that pool has been shrinking every year, that actually doctor and use their brains, they'll continue doing what they do.

zdog...sorry not imagination, new protocols and new structure in hospitals all over the country...its called "meaningful use of information".

it wont make sense to everybody...its not written as I wrote it out, but how else can govnt track it unless it is standardized protocol, procedure....Anyways...this is just an FYI...not an argument starter...it may work for some and not for others no one said people who wrote/created this were stupid...it makes sense and it may have worked if it was ran by anyone else except for the govn't....http://www.healthit.gov/policy-researchers-implementers/meaningful-use

I'm not on the outside looking in and I haven't had anything like this presented to me.  

Blitzen, you are funny.  Everything you post is truth, (sorry, but I don't believe a word the Gov't nor their bought and paid newspapers say)  and everyone else is wrong, even if they WORK in the healthcare field. 

Why should we believe you or anything you post? And who are you to tell who others what to post or who to respond to?

Ovomitcare is childish yet we are also supposed to find your repeittive "all aboard" and other reference's  to crazy for  those who have a differing opinion, funny and mature.
How old are you again?
Much older than the rest of us apparently, so you could start by setting an example of how to post in a mature manner, no? Maybe it will wear off on all of us kids.

It is obvious that you and your sidekicks  have their head so far up Obama's arse, they will never see the light.  So be it. Frankly I've  had it with you and your cronies.
Just don't ever say you haven't been warned.

BTW, Where is Ninja, did you scare him off too? Unfortunate.

RedS:

Ninja isn't scared off. Yeah, right. 

Thanks for the warning, though, I'll be sure to give you, your "I told you so..." if and when "we", (I am sure that covers at least a few cronies worth of people) ever get to that same side of Mount Paranoia, that you are on.

I think it is a riot lately. I mean it used to be coming out of the closet meant you were going to stop being ashamed of one's homosexuality. And now, in this new age of gender mergers, I think it descibes the unshackling of conventional fetters, even better, that some have been hiding for so long!  The closet conspiracy theorists are just bleeding out of the cracks in the door, all over this here place.

Just goes to show, the universe abhors a vacuum!
LMAO
TGIF