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by Ruger1 on 27 July 2012 - 15:07
GSDguy said, "If you can honestly believe the nonsense that all of the universe, the planets, the solar systems, the oceans, the animals on the land and in the sea, the complexity of them and the humans as well, the weather, tornadoes, hurricanes, floods, volcanoes, sunsets, storms, etc etc.......All just somehow by "chance" came together so perfectly. Nonsense!
I like this!!..
I like this!!..
by Two Moons on 27 July 2012 - 18:07
It is so much easier, and much simpler just to believe in a superman and his magic father who impregnates women without their knowledge.
Is this the origin of the word bastard, or were they secretly married on some cloud and she just didn't remember the honeymoon?
Nonsense comes in many forms does it not, and what of fools, are they too the work of the great master who demands service for the promise of eternity?
Would not eternity also mean infinity, something that is not supposed to exist?
What you worship is not a god, you worship a book, and it has as many faults as anything else.
Nonsense?
What does or does not make sense is in the eye of the beholder and has little to do with fact or reality.
And what of the beliefs of others that contradict with your own, are they all wrong, evil, the work of satan, I think not.
They are nothing more than some one else's way of making sense of it all, also handed down through the written or the spoken words from past generations.
Most of those do not consider other views as demonic temptations, nor do they threaten small children with eternal hell and damnation.
Your gods power is based on fear and for that reason alone makes you subject to abuse by those who proclaim to be plugged in, connected directly to this imaginary supreme being.
So,
anyone who can't put his mind around the fact that it is all in question and clings to some book for answers instead of thinking, just can't see the true wonder and infinite diversity of nature.
Yeah,
some guy designed it all right down to the last bacterium, and he made it all from nothing.
This surely couldn't have happened any other way.
Just remember, sometimes his answer is No......
Is this the origin of the word bastard, or were they secretly married on some cloud and she just didn't remember the honeymoon?
Nonsense comes in many forms does it not, and what of fools, are they too the work of the great master who demands service for the promise of eternity?
Would not eternity also mean infinity, something that is not supposed to exist?
What you worship is not a god, you worship a book, and it has as many faults as anything else.
Nonsense?
What does or does not make sense is in the eye of the beholder and has little to do with fact or reality.
And what of the beliefs of others that contradict with your own, are they all wrong, evil, the work of satan, I think not.
They are nothing more than some one else's way of making sense of it all, also handed down through the written or the spoken words from past generations.
Most of those do not consider other views as demonic temptations, nor do they threaten small children with eternal hell and damnation.
Your gods power is based on fear and for that reason alone makes you subject to abuse by those who proclaim to be plugged in, connected directly to this imaginary supreme being.
So,
anyone who can't put his mind around the fact that it is all in question and clings to some book for answers instead of thinking, just can't see the true wonder and infinite diversity of nature.
Yeah,
some guy designed it all right down to the last bacterium, and he made it all from nothing.
This surely couldn't have happened any other way.
Just remember, sometimes his answer is No......
by Red Sable on 27 July 2012 - 19:07
How I'd love to be the fly on the wall of these nay say'ers hospital room when they are lying on their death beds.
When faced with imminent death, will they still be so cocky me wonders?
When faced with imminent death, will they still be so cocky me wonders?
by Keith Grossman on 27 July 2012 - 19:07
"The truth of it all is that the humanist have taken control of the education system and the news media."
In a country where poll after poll illustrates that over 90% of the population believes in a higher power and more than 75% identify themselves as Christians, do you have any idea how ridiculous this claim sounds?
"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours" - Stephen F. Roberts
In a country where poll after poll illustrates that over 90% of the population believes in a higher power and more than 75% identify themselves as Christians, do you have any idea how ridiculous this claim sounds?
"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours" - Stephen F. Roberts
by GSDguy08 on 27 July 2012 - 19:07
It is so much easier, and much simpler just to believe in a superman and his magic father who impregnates women without their knowledge.
You clearly have not read the Gospels of Matthew and Luke correctly have you?
I have no reason to respond to you moons, or the rest of what you've said. Some of it you have clearly twisted as well and clearly for your twisted motives.
Red Sable, will we still be so cocky? It's nothing to do with being cocky. It's standing for what you believe in. Surely you have done so with something. No one wants to die (no one in their right mind anyway) so to speak, but I will stand for what I believe in until death. And I ask you, explain to me the miracles of the bible. Not the ones that people "claim" could have just been done convincing someone's mind they are healed. But explain to me, an immediate healing of leprosy, feeding five thousand with 2 fish and 5 loaves of bread (and yet they were all full and ended up having 12 baskets left over), or raising one from the dead.....one who's body began to stink already. Or healing the 10 with leprosy, or the one who had never walked in his life as he was lame since birth. And I also ask, what is wrong with doing what the New Testament has commanded.....in hopes of going to Heaven.....I would say it's better to be safe than sorry. Better to have lived according to the word than risk your soul to hell.
You clearly have not read the Gospels of Matthew and Luke correctly have you?
I have no reason to respond to you moons, or the rest of what you've said. Some of it you have clearly twisted as well and clearly for your twisted motives.
Red Sable, will we still be so cocky? It's nothing to do with being cocky. It's standing for what you believe in. Surely you have done so with something. No one wants to die (no one in their right mind anyway) so to speak, but I will stand for what I believe in until death. And I ask you, explain to me the miracles of the bible. Not the ones that people "claim" could have just been done convincing someone's mind they are healed. But explain to me, an immediate healing of leprosy, feeding five thousand with 2 fish and 5 loaves of bread (and yet they were all full and ended up having 12 baskets left over), or raising one from the dead.....one who's body began to stink already. Or healing the 10 with leprosy, or the one who had never walked in his life as he was lame since birth. And I also ask, what is wrong with doing what the New Testament has commanded.....in hopes of going to Heaven.....I would say it's better to be safe than sorry. Better to have lived according to the word than risk your soul to hell.
by GSDguy08 on 27 July 2012 - 19:07
Keith, I knew it was a matter of time before someone brought that up. But do those who profess to be Christians believe in the God of the bible? Is so, should they not follow what they are commanded in the New Testament? How many of those do? Very, very few.....Very few even read the scriptures, nor do they know "why" the congregation they may worship believes what it believes.
by Keith Grossman on 27 July 2012 - 20:07
"But explain to me, an immediate healing of leprosy, feeding five thousand with 2 fish and 5 loaves of bread (and yet they were all full and ended up having 12 baskets left over), or raising one from the dead.....one who's body began to stink already. Or healing the 10 with leprosy, or the one who had never walked in his life as he was lame since birth."
Explain to me how a wolf could huff and puff and blow a house down like happened in the Three Little Pigs. Clearly it was a miracle so the wolf must be a deity.
Explain to me how a wolf could huff and puff and blow a house down like happened in the Three Little Pigs. Clearly it was a miracle so the wolf must be a deity.
by Felloffher on 27 July 2012 - 20:07
"And I also ask, what is wrong with doing what the New Testament has commanded.....in hopes of going to Heaven.....I would say it's better to be safe than sorry. Better to have lived according to the word than risk your soul to going to hell."
Here you have it, the reason attendance in your churches is up. They may not buy in 100%, but the fear of eternal damnation is enough for them to hold on to the insurance policy.
Here you have it, the reason attendance in your churches is up. They may not buy in 100%, but the fear of eternal damnation is enough for them to hold on to the insurance policy.
by Red Sable on 27 July 2012 - 20:07
GSD guy, I don't know how you thought I meant you? If you are right, aweome, if you are wrong, no biggy! I was talking about those that say HE isn't so. 
by GSDguy08 on 28 July 2012 - 02:07
felloffher. Much of it has to do with what they're taught and not taught. Some are taught by both example and what the parents do....to be very liberal and not doing what all it says. Some......just want to rebel, but almost always they were not taught correctly either. Some who are like that did not have good back grounds growing up, and they were faithful for a while when they became a Christian, but soon fell away. And then you have many, many different denominations who have made their own creeds in order to fit what "they" want to do so many who go to church fall into that, not knowing exactly what the scriptures say because they "went to church with their parents in denominations where creeds were taught, and they never viewed what all the New Testament commanded. That is 1 not authorized by the scriptures and 2 Things that you won't even find true according to the scriptures. felloffher, I want to ask you, what will you do after you die....if I'm right? Not "that I'm right", it has nothing to do with me, but that there is a heaven and hell, and that you've seeked to belittle Christians and their beliefs so much, that you don't go to heaven? Then what? Some members on this board seem to get kicks out of bashing Christians, mocking them, or acting like their idiots. That's just sad.
Red Sable, sorry lol. I got confused. Anyway, stuff to do, and off to bed for the wedding tomorrow.
Red Sable, sorry lol. I got confused. Anyway, stuff to do, and off to bed for the wedding tomorrow.
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