When was she born? - Page 4

Shoulder could be Dingo...

What susie says is so true. It would be a dream to travel to Germany and take the pups back for titles, but the cost keeps most away from that posibility.

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=444296

This is the dog's link above, I've not met it, but it differs from the rest in it's bloodline, being longer in lower arm and giving a high wither, but I can't be sure if the handler is pushing the rear down with a knee or not. Susie, I'd love to learn german. Sometimes I place the reports into a translater in order to read the reports.

ELEGANCE??

THIS is elegant??


I'm sorry, I very much disagree. And this is a V rated, KK1 dog. There are many like him out there, and many SL people brag about them being a 'mangnifcent, stallion-type male'.

IMO, they are far too heavy and ponderous to do the sort of work a GSD was meant to do.

(Makes Ferrum's link clickable...)

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=444296

BTW, one of the most elegant things I've seen on the PDB was a American showline herding sheep. The dog's movement was spectacular, and it looked like it could go all day. However, since the photos were not posted publically (I consider photos in the pedigree section to be public) I don't want to post them here, and I've forgotten just who the poster was, so I can't contact them for permission.

This example for sure is NOT elegant, how old is he?
He is well structured, but too much head and body. Wouldn´t use him as stud.
I don´t like this kind of head in a German, nor do I like trained males with more than 38 kilos ( how many pounds are this? ).
But it´s NOT the norm, and after all, it´s up to the breeder to choose the stud and the dam.

I don't know how old the dog was when the photo was taken, but here's a link to his pedigree: http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/german_shepherd_dog/dog.html?id=494499 

As I said above, I've seen many males that are similar, with these jowly 'Akita' or 'chow' type heads, which Bliizten and I both think are so ugly.

38 kg. is around 84 lbs. You multiply by 2.2 to convert.

Seems to be the trend right now, you can find this kind of head in several show and working lines (here mostly old DDR blood).
As I said before, I don´t like them.

sunsilver, your dog looks like a kodiak bear. Dogs like that usually sell well. His structure is nice but he is certainly not elegant. Thank you making my link clickable. Susie and all, is there a list of German Dogs that do not carry the long coat gene? Because I have never known one that did not, and I checked the progeny pictures for the VA list, and I almost allways see long coats in a small percentage of the progeny.

I don´t know, if there is any list.
The german breeders didn´t and don´t care much about longcoat genes, there seem to be some working lines to be free of this gene, but I never cared about. Coats were sold for less, now they are allowed ( new members for SV), I like there appearance, but I don´t think they should be bred.
A coated shepherd is not a good working dog ( okay, waiting for contradiction  ), right now I´m proud owner of a coat, because I fell in love with his charactere, but this dog could never stay outside wet and cold for hours. He needs too long to dry. If this dog had to stay outside / herding sheep a couple of days or nights in rain and low degrees, he would become ill for sure. No "outside" coat, although he is a real long stock.
There are coats in almost every litter, why breed them? Everybody who is looking for a coat is able to get one.
Okay, that was off topic, it´s late, good night, folks.
Thanks for this interesting evening.
Susie