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by beetree on 21 March 2012 - 20:03
I bet you're one of them subservient ones. LOL
by VonIsengard on 21 March 2012 - 23:03
Come now, beetree, I've been around here a long time, surely you know me better than that! Gave me a hell of a laugh, though. I've been called a lot of things but this is a first!
Folks, "pet" is not an insult. "Companion" is not a dirty word. Not coming from me, anyway. I have utmost respect for family dogs and take careful measures in my breedings to have dogs that are 100% stable for just that, when a family buyer comes to me. I know some people use "pet" condescendingly, but that's their own ego problem, not a problem with your dog.
In fairness, consider the enormous amount of work and expense it takes to title/test/certify an active working dog. They deserve to be in a class all their own, that doesn't mean your companion has any less value in your life.
That dog that led the fire truck was the freakin' WUSV champion of pet dogs, and I'd be just as proud of that dog, if not more so, than the dogs of mine who've earned titles.
"Not the same" DOES NOT MEAN "less than".
by Donnerstorm on 22 March 2012 - 01:03
Just one question because I may have taken something completely wrong when reading it. The police K9 that does not have the temperment to do SAR? If I am correct in assuming you have run across one of these dogs, you have indeed run across a poorly trained police K9. Your dog can't bite the bad guy if he can't find the bad guy. Police K9's are routinely called out for "friendly searches". All police K9's should be able to do a friendly search and a felony search if it can not it has no business being on the street.
by Slamdunc on 22 March 2012 - 02:03
Police K9's are routinely called out for "friendly searches". All police K9's should be able to do a friendly search and a felony search if it can not it has no business being on the street.
I agree we do a lot of searches for missing children, Alzheimer patients, mentally impaired or emotionally disturbed people who may have wandered off. Our tactics are different when searching for these people. You can not expect and should never expect a Patrol K-9 to be "Lassie." Patrol dogs can not distinquish between a bad guy acting "nice and normal" and an emotionally disturbed person who may panic at the sight of a dog. My dog is trained to "find and bite" and will do so even on a seemingly compliant person. I do not expect my dog to judge a perons intention or character. I do expect my dog to perform as trained which involves apprehending felons and violent individuals.
Some PD's still teach a "hold and bark" (which I don't like) and expect their dogs to not bite the suspect or individual at the end of a track. What if your dog is tracking a missing juvenile or impaired person who is afraid of dogs and freaks out when he sees the dog? Do you think the "hold and bark" trained dog won't bite a person who freaks out? Patrol dogs that don't bite have no business working the street, they can be single purpose detection dogs.
I would say 80% of the tracks I do are felony tracks and 20% are missing person call outs. I tracked a burglary suspect to a residence today and apprehended him. I expect all of the dogs in our unit to be trained for the 80% felony tracks we do and our dogs to be ready to bite at the end of every track. I expect our handlers to be able to read their dogs and know when they are close to the target and control their dog and prevent innocent people form getting bit. I expect these handlers to read their dogs and see the changes in body language and behavior to be able to safely track and apprehend violent offenders. It is all about reading the dog and not relying on "Lassie" to know who is good, who is bad and who gets bit, that is the handler's job.
I agree we do a lot of searches for missing children, Alzheimer patients, mentally impaired or emotionally disturbed people who may have wandered off. Our tactics are different when searching for these people. You can not expect and should never expect a Patrol K-9 to be "Lassie." Patrol dogs can not distinquish between a bad guy acting "nice and normal" and an emotionally disturbed person who may panic at the sight of a dog. My dog is trained to "find and bite" and will do so even on a seemingly compliant person. I do not expect my dog to judge a perons intention or character. I do expect my dog to perform as trained which involves apprehending felons and violent individuals.
Some PD's still teach a "hold and bark" (which I don't like) and expect their dogs to not bite the suspect or individual at the end of a track. What if your dog is tracking a missing juvenile or impaired person who is afraid of dogs and freaks out when he sees the dog? Do you think the "hold and bark" trained dog won't bite a person who freaks out? Patrol dogs that don't bite have no business working the street, they can be single purpose detection dogs.
I would say 80% of the tracks I do are felony tracks and 20% are missing person call outs. I tracked a burglary suspect to a residence today and apprehended him. I expect all of the dogs in our unit to be trained for the 80% felony tracks we do and our dogs to be ready to bite at the end of every track. I expect our handlers to be able to read their dogs and know when they are close to the target and control their dog and prevent innocent people form getting bit. I expect these handlers to read their dogs and see the changes in body language and behavior to be able to safely track and apprehend violent offenders. It is all about reading the dog and not relying on "Lassie" to know who is good, who is bad and who gets bit, that is the handler's job.
by Donnerstorm on 22 March 2012 - 02:03
I completely agree slamdunc, I would never expect the dog to be able to differentiate between the two, and I believe the key to being a good handler is being able to read your dog. btw this is totally off topic but I have to ask exactly how long is your dogs tongue?? everytime I see the pic I think of the scooby Doo cartoons where he unrolls his tongue to grab a scooby snack. LOL
by Donnerstorm on 22 March 2012 - 02:03
Also should have said as for street dogs, the only hold and bark I think they should have is they bark you hold, you have to let go somebody is getting bit. That's what the call out is for prior to releasing the dog. a bark and hold leaves your dog defenseless, I do believe the bite and hold is an appropriate command for a street dog.
by Slamdunc on 22 March 2012 - 02:03
It must be the camera angle, his tongue is long but not huge. Here is another shot of him, he jumped on me while I was laying on the couch and I was messing with him:
I think it is a normal length.
I think it is a normal length.
by Red Sable on 22 March 2012 - 09:03
He's really a beautiful dog Jim. :)
VonIsengard: good post, I agree.
VonIsengard: good post, I agree.
by Ninja181 on 22 March 2012 - 11:03
The funny thing is Boomer acts like he enjoys the sun glasses, not at all like he is just tolerating them. Cute picture.
by Donnerstorm on 22 March 2012 - 14:03
LOL I love the one with the glasses, he is a beautiful dog.
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