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by owl01 on 11 July 2010 - 12:07

by darylehret on 11 July 2010 - 16:07
90 litters is going to make a WHOLE lot of pups. I'd say a sire that produces anymore than 10 litters a year is going to lessen the attraction for me. There's a lot of producers that I can admire, but not so much desire, and I start blocking them out if they get overly popular, no matter how nice a dog they are.
I dislike Bomber's structure myself, he appears to my eye "cartoonish" in contrast from front to rear.
I'd suppose Yoschy neared his breeding "limit" during his producing career, and I do like Yoschy. So, it's not to say I wouldn't later be interested in a well structured linebreeding on a particular producer's semi-notable quality decendants.
For proponents of "diversity", take note of that. Linebreeding, even very tightly, is going to be better for breed diversity, in comparison to a gazillion 1st generation direct offspring oversaturating all the breed's genepool.
I dislike Bomber's structure myself, he appears to my eye "cartoonish" in contrast from front to rear.
I'd suppose Yoschy neared his breeding "limit" during his producing career, and I do like Yoschy. So, it's not to say I wouldn't later be interested in a well structured linebreeding on a particular producer's semi-notable quality decendants.
For proponents of "diversity", take note of that. Linebreeding, even very tightly, is going to be better for breed diversity, in comparison to a gazillion 1st generation direct offspring oversaturating all the breed's genepool.

by nonacona60 on 11 July 2010 - 18:07
Since I am the owner of this thread, I am going to put a twist in the subject matter but still on topic... here it is...
This is a statement made from a previous reply by another poster:::::
"No self respecting decent working line breeder gives a shit about color beyond dark pigmentation and the color is within the standard. "
Both the SV and AKC standards say nothing at all about the color brindle being undesirable and unregisterable, I present this thought:::::
.. Since the color brindle is not listed as undesirable, if a "respectable breeder" happened to produce a brindle pup that turned out to be an awesome working dog, I am assuming, according to this statement above, the "respectable breeder" would not care....Now keep in mind this whole thread is about reproduction of color.. Should the awesome working brindle be used for breeding to reproduce his working traits and "not give a shit about the color"?
This is a statement made from a previous reply by another poster:::::
"No self respecting decent working line breeder gives a shit about color beyond dark pigmentation and the color is within the standard. "
Both the SV and AKC standards say nothing at all about the color brindle being undesirable and unregisterable, I present this thought:::::
.. Since the color brindle is not listed as undesirable, if a "respectable breeder" happened to produce a brindle pup that turned out to be an awesome working dog, I am assuming, according to this statement above, the "respectable breeder" would not care....Now keep in mind this whole thread is about reproduction of color.. Should the awesome working brindle be used for breeding to reproduce his working traits and "not give a shit about the color"?

by darylehret on 11 July 2010 - 18:07
There is no brindle in any contemporary lines, and the SV and AKC do require purebreds, so it can never happen.

by nonacona60 on 11 July 2010 - 18:07
Not trying to argue any point here.. but I do believe anything is possible. When it comes to mother nature, or the will of the Lord, do any of us want to say it could never happen...
by Gustav on 11 July 2010 - 19:07
If I produced a brindle from a litter of mine and the DNA confirmed he was from said parents.....if this dog was a good working prospect I would have no problem keeping him or breeding him. I really don't breed for public acceptance but rather good working German Shepherds with no major faults.
by eichenluft on 11 July 2010 - 19:07
Brindle is NOT on the list of acceptable/registerable colors, for the SV nor the AKC registrations, for the GSD breed. Therefore it is not a desired color to be produced by any reputable, responsible breeder. If I had a brindle pup in one of my litters, I'd be doing instant DNA testing on all puppies and parents too. But it won't happen - when I see a brindle-marked GSD-looking dog, I assume it is not purebred. So far this has not been proven wrong (no brindle GSD has been proven purebred to my knowledge in recent years)
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by nonacona60 on 11 July 2010 - 19:07
Both standards list unacceptable colors and Brindle is not on that list.... it is not on the acceptable list or the unaccepatable list..??????.

by sueincc on 11 July 2010 - 19:07
Let me know as soon as you find that "awesome working brindle". You perhaps like to play "what if" games about color, but frankly color is so unimportant in the grand scope of the GSD, and I don't really have the time to indulge, I gotta go work dogs, so I leave you to those more patient and more knowledgeable about color than I. Have a nice day.

by nonacona60 on 11 July 2010 - 19:07
I'm not looking for it, nor am I trying to breed for it....
I think someone on here said it could never happen..That means it doesn't exsist....
edited by owner on: 7/10/10 2:53CST

I think someone on here said it could never happen..That means it doesn't exsist....

edited by owner on: 7/10/10 2:53CST
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