Volhard Puppy aptitude test... - Page 4

I agree with SP.

I can see a lot when I interact with puppies. I just take it up a notch and maybe test for something extra (hunting drive, stress solving and so on) it takes me about 5 minutes per puppy.. no biggy.
I have see the test done, never used it because I didnt like the results. I did not think the testing was valuable to me much.

Pack

PS if you ask an opinion, dont be rude to disagreing opinion posters.
I have no clue what the hell is going on lately on this site. But becasue somebody doesnt agree and tries to point out or express an opinion, it doesn't mean that the poster has to be insulted.. that is just plain low behavior and uncalled for...

4Pack wrote:

PS if you ask an opinion, don't be rude to disagreing opinion posters.
I have no clue what the hell is going on lately on this site. But becasue somebody doesnt agree and tries to point out or express an opinion, it doesn't mean that the poster has to be insulted.. that is just plain low behavior and uncalled for...

If you would have read a couple of post before you made yours, you would know it not that I don't want to hear opinions from respectable people...SOCK PUPPET clearly states that he answered me before. What I asked him, was why was he trolling after me since he admitted he told me before...He was trying to start trouble...Now I give him want he wants, he wants it to stop....I always listen to the knowledgeable breeders and owners. The wanna be's, I have no use for them and their opinion, much less getting their same opinion twice in the same thread...See example below.....

<<<I told you that in a nut shell earlier.

SP>>

It was a site note. I have read his posts on this topic.

It was ignored by you, noticed by couple.
I agree with SP the test did nothing for me or the puppies. I can determine that little from knowing the puppies and watching them. Well if somebody doesnt know then yes, I would have them do the test. Otherwise a good eye is better than the mentioned test.

So I think for many it is lost time and energy, for some it is a valuable tool.
Pack

Thanks for sharing your opinion....Gotta run, gonna share my valuable time with my babies...

More of the same opinion here, I agree with SP and Pack, but didn't want to get into the "usual" predicament I find myself in when on this forum.  However, what it does do for the breeder who decides to evaluate their own pups (not necessarily with Volhard's), is provide a record that the breeder can refer to later, ten litters down the line, or ten years afterward.  Believe it or not, you might want specific details that you can't always recall with 100% accuracy, to enable you to 'data mine' new ways to utilize the old information on what you've produced, or identify subtle trends you might not recognize otherwise.

Pretty much agreed 100%.

SP

I administered the Vollhard Puppy Test twice.  I was not the breeder and so the puppies did not know me or the other person administering the test.  We videotaped the tests.  So we were able to review our paper scoring sheets with others to see if we were on track.  The other person involved in the testing was an experienced breeder and very into Schuthund training.

I did this to make sure that in one litter my friends were getting the right puppy and the second time that I would be getting the right puppy.

It was a fascinating experience and of the puppies that I was able to follow, it was very accurate.  It was 15 years ago.

Michele

Michele, thanks for the sharing that...Very valuable information...Thats the kind of reply I was looking for.. Someone who had actually done the test and what their findings were... If the test isn't give, than an opinion is just that, an opinion which really isn't any information at all..Once again, Thank you and thanks to the others who replied with actual information from actually doing the test.....

Hey DDR, how's that 2x4-upside-the-head test workin' out for ya? did any dogs live long enough to prove its efficacy one way or the other? 

Dealing With Jealous Behaviour (Non-GSD) by DDR-DSH on 08 August 2009 - 07:08 DDR-DSH DDR-DSH Posts: 308 Joined: Mon Dec 26, 2005 01:23 am
I had to break up a three dog fight once with a two by four, about eight feet long. Those dogs were really mixing it up! Every time a dog would get on top of the others, KA-POWWW, I'd let him have it over the top of his skull. He'd be weak in the knees, and another dog would take the opportunity to jump on top, then KA-POWWW, he'd get it. Finally the third dog would be on top, and he'd get Ka-Bonged, too! We did two complete rounds like this. Every dog got it on top of the head two times, and then, as if someone had flipped a light switch, they all broke off and ran for opposite corners of the yard, and wouldn't come near each other, all day! I was deathly afraid my mom was going to try to reach in there to grab a collar, and she'd gotten bitten a few times doing this, but that was with two dog fights.. This was three dogs, and a three dog fight can be very dangerous.. fatal or really disfiguring, because whichever dog goes down first usually gets trashed! I just did what I could, with what I had, but it really worked! And, screw the dogs, if it came right down to it. I didn't want my mom being maimed and disfigured. Lumber, hard upside the head, will do the trick, but definitely a last resort. It's not training.. It's crisis control!