Old Fashion Large German Shepherds - Page 4

I don't have time to read all the posts in this thread, but in regard to hips, Pennhip can give a pre-lim rating at 4 months of age. I had contacted them a while back and that is what they told me. Again, it is a pre-lim rating and not a 100% guarantee.

BTW, I had a GSD (German lines) in the late 1960's and she waswell  within the breed standard height and weight of today. Her structure was different than the showline of today- no roachy back or overangulation. What a great dog she was.

Will these behemoths be available for viewing at the zoo in the near future?  I'd love to see some video of Sasqautch working but my computer screen is very small and won't accommodate an animal of such magnitude.  Are there any such videos???  Or is this just another example of someone trying to take a working breed and make it into a useless couch potato?

What a goof.                                                 

                                                  

Better keep some towels handy,,,,your bumper's about to be full of spit.                       

GSDtravels- Well the fact that you live in a diffrent economic situation may have some bearing on what you and I may spend/ do with our dogs etc. I was just speaking on the fact that I am near broke at all times when it comes to my dog money, my hubby works really hard to pay for extra stuff, and vet bills seem never ending. Where some people may have 3-4 litters a year, he may only have one, and if he only has 3-4 pups out of his big dogs and gets' the same amount of money per litter as one other breeder with 4 litters is that still wrong ? You and I are not sitting down with his books and going over what he has to spend on vet bills, dog food, kennel care expencies etc - so its best not to judge or call names.

I may be able to get a beatiful puppy for $500 UsD in Mexico that is worth $2500 Usd here , or I may have to spend more UsD in another Country for a good quality pup.
Your rent , or just a bag of dog food where you are may be less than what I spend on rent or a bag of dog food.. Not to mention what you choose to price your dogs at and why is your buisness, not mine, and I don't think (personaly) its right to judge a person on the fact that they have high or low prices. If he had 20+ puppies left over at his house because there was no market for them, and no money, and then it became your concern because you had to rescue them all - then yeah go ahead and complain- but the truth is his dogs are happly homed.

The question becomes - Who is buying the $4500 started 4+ month old pup with a Prelim ? Oviously people with money and no time to start a puppy on there own ! People who live in the LA / Hollywood area and need a dog with presence, but not a liablity. The people there have a want , and he is filling a need. End of story.

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Ok here is one slight example - My friend and I live only 40 miles away from eachother. At my Vet whom I have a good relationship with sence I moved here little under a year ago charges me $250 for both Hips/Elbow OFA x rays. My friend goes to the same Vet for over 10 years, and they charge her $450 for Hips/Elbow OFA x rays.. What is the diffrence in 40 miles ??? Economy
Some things may cost more or less depending where you live, like Gas, dog food , grocerys. We grow tomatoes here in California the price is going to be lower than a state that does not grow tomatoes and has to pay to have them shipped in.

Let's also note that those larger dogs are going to be eating MORE food than your 1/2 sized dogs. If I spent $25 a dog per month just in dog food, that would be (8X25) $200 a month just in food. He may spend more than me because he uses a better dog food, but assuming he was using a food that was the same price, he would spend 2Xs as much as me just because his dogs are doubled in size.     Same goes with deworming medications, a drontal pill for a dog of one size is not the same price as a dog 2xs the size.. it cost's more to have bigger dogs period.

I would never spend this kind of money on this but go to the site and it is nothing but books of info all slanted to sell the unsuspecting fool a super dog.

Kimmelot he is not filling a need he is taking advantage of people who do not know better.

OK SP, If you say so it must be oh wise one :)     I feel the same way about the German working line breeders that knowingly put hard headed spun ducky woo woo dogs into pet homes. It takes some of those dogs 4 years to calm down just a pinch, and until then they become fustrated with no jobs, jump fences, maul neighbor dogs, destroy homes, and otherwise live sad lives because there owners where "tricked" into thinking that the " real gsd" is a better dog than the pet gsd.

Whisper

opps refreshed the page and there was a double post

Whisper,

Wrong I have high drive working lines and they are not like that in the least bit. They can turn it on and off most of the time. Who is feeding you that line of crap?

That is why it is up to the breeder to help educate the masses. So it is a breeder issue and not a dog issue. Or better yet cause of a few breeders all working breeders should be slapped? I am confused on the logic of this. Everyone knows the larger an organism gets the more the health issues. I mean if I weigh 400 pounds or 210 which is better for me? I know the answer is not the 400 pounder so does it not make sense the larger the more health issues?