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by FHTracker on 19 July 2010 - 15:07
KC,
The thing that is putting a burr under my saddle is the fact that people like the OP come on here with these 'second hand accounts' or even with first hand accounts, where they describe a dangerous dog and are like 'oh help us fix Fluffy'.
Experienced trainers or not, no one is a damn mind reader across the internet to pick apart what people 'mean' to say vs what they actually say.
Going off the OPs word choice and description, the dog should be put down. Now, if the owners want to actually put a crowbar in their wallet, contact a more appropriate source of information (a dog trainer who can actually SEE the damn dog) and have it properly evaluated then they might get more appropriate guidance for the situation.
The thing that is putting a burr under my saddle is the fact that people like the OP come on here with these 'second hand accounts' or even with first hand accounts, where they describe a dangerous dog and are like 'oh help us fix Fluffy'.
Experienced trainers or not, no one is a damn mind reader across the internet to pick apart what people 'mean' to say vs what they actually say.
Going off the OPs word choice and description, the dog should be put down. Now, if the owners want to actually put a crowbar in their wallet, contact a more appropriate source of information (a dog trainer who can actually SEE the damn dog) and have it properly evaluated then they might get more appropriate guidance for the situation.
by Ruger1 on 19 July 2010 - 16:07
KCzaja...... You are right on. The trainer came to my home to meet my 6 month old male. I was terrified with my males behavior when she arrived. I caged him before she entered the house to protect the trainer from my 'stranger aggressive' male lol... I was sure the trainer was going to confirm that my pup was a 'nut-case'.......As he was exhibiting what I considered aggressive behavior she explained to me that his behavior was excitement....' whats going on.....'let me out.'..ect..ect..I have had two other GSD's and have never seen this way of communicating excitement. To me it looked and sounded like aggression...........My bad...Not being able to read my pups behavior could have cost my pup his life had I communicated this scenario to the wrong people and took their advice. Raising this male is nothing like my past experiences with GSD's.......I am learning how much I DO NOT KNOW ABOUT DOGS....
Humbly, Ruger1
Humbly, Ruger1
by FHTracker on 19 July 2010 - 18:07
Here we go.
While everybody is wringing their hands over this poor misunderstood walking liability because it;s only 5 months old, let's stick the needle in the vein of this dog in it's place.
While everybody is wringing their hands over this poor misunderstood walking liability because it;s only 5 months old, let's stick the needle in the vein of this dog in it's place.
by NoCurs on 19 July 2010 - 21:07
Ruger, buddy, friend, kid, gotta tell you, I'm glad you have a shepherd...
Were you getting something like a "real deal" pit bull, (just as an example) and you showed such a shocking lack of perception as to its behavior, I would say that unless you could learn really, really, really quickly, that you would be putting the dog at incredible risk.
See, I'm old fashion. I think people should RESEARCH the breed of dog they are getting, and that means seeing MANY adult examples of the breed. ANd having a breeder which can mentor you. It sounds as if this was not your case.
So, I'm not NOT raging on you, but it can be a real problem for a dog to get into the hands of someone so inexperienced. Having said that, I've found that most of the adults I have dealt with who actually got around to being concerned about theirr dog's behavior around their kids were reacting on a - correct - gut reaction.
I'd suggest a wonderful book to all: called The Gift of Fear. It's great reading for dog people, though not a dog book.
Were you getting something like a "real deal" pit bull, (just as an example) and you showed such a shocking lack of perception as to its behavior, I would say that unless you could learn really, really, really quickly, that you would be putting the dog at incredible risk.
See, I'm old fashion. I think people should RESEARCH the breed of dog they are getting, and that means seeing MANY adult examples of the breed. ANd having a breeder which can mentor you. It sounds as if this was not your case.
So, I'm not NOT raging on you, but it can be a real problem for a dog to get into the hands of someone so inexperienced. Having said that, I've found that most of the adults I have dealt with who actually got around to being concerned about theirr dog's behavior around their kids were reacting on a - correct - gut reaction.
I'd suggest a wonderful book to all: called The Gift of Fear. It's great reading for dog people, though not a dog book.
by Ruger1 on 20 July 2010 - 02:07
NoCurs... yep, I do admit it was a 'shocking lack of perception' on my part...This male has been a very 'hard read' for me. I am interested in reading the book you recommended ...I do not think your ragging....Thanks for the post.
Ruger1
Ruger1
by NoCurs on 20 July 2010 - 03:07
Thanks for not freaking on me! : )
by Two Moons on 20 July 2010 - 04:07
One more reason I do not support shelters.
A shelter or better, a dog pound as I remember them is a place to locate your lost dog, not to adopt someone else's.
After a set time if the dog is not claimed by it's rightful owner they should all be put down for their own sake.
It used to be two weeks, fourteen days. And you had to pay the costs to get your dog.
They were never humane.
A shelter or better, a dog pound as I remember them is a place to locate your lost dog, not to adopt someone else's.
After a set time if the dog is not claimed by it's rightful owner they should all be put down for their own sake.
It used to be two weeks, fourteen days. And you had to pay the costs to get your dog.
They were never humane.
by VonIsengard on 20 July 2010 - 05:07
Listen, I'm not saying the dog should not be put down, maybe it is an unstable dog. Some are born bad eggs and can't be fixed. Some are just not the right dog for their situation and would do better in a new, more experienced home. Some dogs can be completely turned around by a good trainer showing the family what they should be doing.
My problem is anyone assuming the dog is any of the aforementioned things having never seen the dog. Getting dog training advice over the internet is like getting a workout by sitting on the couch watching the fitness channel. (Yeah, I wish it worked that way!)
My problem is anyone assuming the dog is any of the aforementioned things having never seen the dog. Getting dog training advice over the internet is like getting a workout by sitting on the couch watching the fitness channel. (Yeah, I wish it worked that way!)
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