Nicest showline males at stud in USA? - Page 4

To be fair, I know I won't take anyone's word for it on a dog's work. I want to see it myself, in person or at least in video. Most stud owners are going to tote their dog's working ability whether they have it or not. Perhaps the OP is simply compiling a mental list of dog's with good reputations so he/she knows who to keep an eye out for during the SS performance (and I do use that term loosely) test?

For those who like Ork but do not want to travel that far west for a stud, there is a Hannibal son in OH, Yacco Vallendarer Hohe. I did a litter with him and was pleased with the strong type and balanced drives.

Are there any videos of the dogs mentioned above, doing protection work?  Including stick hits, guarding?  I'd be interested in seeing them work, before I'd be interested in how black their mask is or how red their pigment is.

molly

HI Molly
I know work is very important to you as it should be.
I am sure if you ask Charlie regarding X-Box work, he will have something for you.

Lida Fleury has a very good male.

He is Kaluv v Whirlingthunder.

www.whirlingthunder.com

Dawn B.

Im thinking of using Xbox based on what Ive heard about his protection working abilities...my female has very solid conformation, and is very driven-although, she is a shy dog-however with incredible drive. Her pigment is lacking but she is a regular (short) stock coat, which I actually prefer over the "plush" coat. My main goal is to produce puppies that are not shy like her but with her drive. I think with the right male Ill have some real performers. Improving her color-more red, better blanket-is secondary. I do want to preserve her nice build, she has nice straight legs and movement. Any suggestions now based on what Im looking for?

Can you post your female's pedigree? Theresa

Molly  you are so right about the blac/red BS.  I have learned to step out of that box and can appreciate the 'TOTAL" dog;  I want it all.  But first without workability it isn't going to matter what the colors are or how good the dog is put together.  I want the total package.  Let me know when you find them and where.  Nan

I used to poo-poo the show line dogs, because the ones I saw couldn't work, or didn't work - in a way that impressed me (or came close).  I now have a show line dog myself - and the reason I have him is because his mother "fell in my lap" whelping her litter for her owner - super nice female with correct drives, nerve strength and "pissy" temperament I liked a lot - ended up owning her, and chose a show-line stud dog with absolute faultless temperament and nerve - medium drive but the bitch had enough drive for both of them.  That chosen stud dog was V-Geronimo v Olympus Schh3 - an Ursus son.  The result - my 100% show line male that works like I want any GSD to work - with high drive, trainability, great nerve strength, piss and vinegar, strength of character, and great temperament.  I like my black/red dog very very much.  So he has changed my  mind - just disappointed that I still don't see many dogs like him out there being worked and shown.

molly

Define "shy". If her nerves are on the weak side, breeding her to a drivey dog will not fix the problem in her progeny, but in fact, may worsen it.

BTW Molly, Geronimo is very heavy on the same lines my old girl is. You could have been describing her temperment as well.

Our showline male does super bitework. He was known for it in the region in Germany where he grew up. We worked him with Chico Stanford and he was impressed. I have a short video on my camera (taken by my 12 year old) which shows his resurvey last month in North Carolina, but I don't know how to download it. When I looked at it on my pc, it was just a slideshow. I am not very computer savvy.
Our Marko is a Teejay-son (Nero vom Noebachtal) out of a Rikkor Bad-Boll-daughter and a Matzo Kirschental-granddaughter.
Marko also has civil aggression and is quite dominant (more than our workingline male, believe it or not). He will not let a stranger take him out of the kennel or crate or come into the house.
He comes out of a litter of three puppies and they all were like that. We had to separate them at 6 weeks because they were fighting among each other really bad. Brother Mick is a companion to a K-9 handler (he was retired from everything due to a leg injury) and sister Mona is still owned by us.
We will show him at NASS in October if we still have him by then - too exhausting and dangerous to keep two males here with us. Marko is a nice alternative to a lot of showlines and therefore a good choice for breeding.

V-Marko vom Silbersee, SchH3 KKL1 a normal hips and elbows, ZW: 76 (the photo does not do him justice, need to take more).

www.vomsilbersee.com/marko.html

You can really see Rikkor in him, Chris!