Land Mine Dogs in Afghanistan - Photos - Page 4

Got the facts straight from the horses mouth twit! How in heel do you think are laying the land mines? Who in hell do you think provided the land mines when the russians were in country> Hodie you are a first class moron! Further more idiot who in hell do you think provided the armament for the afgans  when fighting the russians! What an idiot!

Hodie..

No offense, but you are dumber than dirt


US Bomb dogs are  not likely smelling out Russian Munitions that are over 20 years old! 

If they were,  they would be US Bombs given to the Muhajadeen whom we (CIA) sided with, to Fight the Russian Occupation. 
Strange irony, no?

The Russians put thousands of land mines down in Afghanistan.  The dogs can detect old land mines as well as recent ones.  I don't think it really matters who put the land mine down if a soldier, civilian or child steps on it.  The dogs don't care either, unlike you they are not prejudiced and don't discriminate.  Again your info is wrong, as usual.

Great thread Hodie.  It is always nice to see working dogs making a difference and saving lives. 
Jim

I dunno UglyDog, I believe a good NG dog does know where "magic gunpowder'" is regardless of how long in the earth. I say this because the landmine fields are sill live around here, Gold Mine, Moonshine Church etc. Most Military people know where the live ones are, but still. With these RAP dogs, they are trained to avoid the "magic gunpowder", even by boundry commands. They know what up. So, I have to disagree with you saying a US bomb Dog cannot sniff a 20 year old bomb.

At the same time ....  I sure hope idiots arn't stupid enough to teach one to do so. That's just murder and an enemy tactic.

Glad the US never signed that Ottawa Treaty. LMAO 

YAY America !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nice try  Slamdunc, but as usual, your facts are wrong. 

Youre about 50% informed, 100% of the time.  
Stick to arresting gangbangers and leave international politics to the informed big boys.

 

'2001, mine action NGOs surveyed approximately 14.7 million square meters of mined areas and 80.8 million square meters of former battlefield area, and cleared nearly 15.6 million square meters of mined area and 81.2 million square meters of former battlefields.
ICRC recorded 1,368 new landmine and UXO casualties in Afghanistan in 2001, but that number is not comprehensive.

Source: Landmine Monitor 1999 and Landmine Monitor 2000
http://www.afghan-network.net/Landmines/  

'Mine action operations were virtually brought to a halt following 11 September 2001. The mine action infrastructure suffered greatly during the subsequent military conflict, as some warring factions looted offices, seized vehicles and equipment, and assaulted local staff.

Four deminers and two mine detection dogs were killed in errant U.S. air strikes.
Military operations created additional threats to the population, especially unexploded U.S. cluster bomblets and ammunition scattered from storage depots hit by air strikes, as well as newly laid mines and booby-traps by Northern Alliance, Taliban, and Al-Qaeda fighters.'



USA is indiscriminantally  'Cluster bombing' the region (Illegal & outlawed munitions)  and the bulk is done by the once CIA funded Muhajadeen/Nothern Alliance,  who laid traps for the Russian Occupiers, just as they now do for the US Occupiers.

Me  Prejudiced?  Moi?  
Thats Intersting,  as Im meeting my black friend for lunch today...I will be sure to tell him you think Im 'prejudiced'

I would not know if you are prejudiced or not  Perhaps a racist or one who just hates Jews! I do not know ! But could you tell us why the general american public is just plain brain dead when the important things are considered? When someone introduces a critical issue most start calling names and ridiculing!

For the facts, I get them from one who is working there clearing mines with one of several organizations. He is a former classmate. He says that more than 50% of all mines and anti-tank devices are Russian, left from the 10 years of conflict the Russians were involved in. They placed thousands and thousands of them, without records as to where. The other mine origins are from countries like China, Pakistan, Great Britain, Zimbabwe and the Czech Republic. Regardless of who left the mines, this country remains one of the most dangerous to people, including innocent victims who are killed or maimed each year. Believe what you want about source. The dogs help in a task that is horrendously expensive and necessary. Yes, sadly, the US has also placed mines there, but we are also paying to clear them. Using dogs is a huge help, alhtough yes, sadly some have lost their lives doing so. 

I am done with this thread. Like others, it brings out those who want to believe what they want to believe, regardless of the facts.

Of course Im slightly prejudiced.  
Most of us are. 

Young children are, in how they select their toys and dolls even. Black girls, white girls.
When one see a shark in the water, does one judge the individual shark, or that sharks in general can be dangerous and proceed accordingly?   I dont hate anyone based on color or religion, but I do hate crime and Criminals.

Do Cops Profile?  Sure. Every day.Based on Trends and Stats. Make efficient use of their time in fighting and preventing crime.
I know what the interracial crime stats are.   Im racially aware., as are most.
I make choices based on facts, ie I wouldnt send children to an inner city school for a host of reasons, nor would many here.......
I also know that Israel is the World Capital of Organized Crime, White Slavery, Blood diamonds and Ecstasy Distribution.


I dont hate Jews, Raymond.  I pray for them. For their conversion certainly.
I do hate the Banksters that Destroy us all through Usury.
The same ones in charge of our Federal Reserve, and the ones Christ Threw OUT of the Temple, after fashioning a Whip of Cord to drive them out!   Words did him no good either..

There are Jews I have great respect for (Norman Finkelstein, Bobby Fisher, Jack Bernstein, Benjamin Freedman et al) and those Jews that Oppose Zionism.  
The B'tSalem Human Rights Group  in Israel, has my great respect.  The Righteous Jews that stand for justice and human rights are people I admire greatly.

Off subject here, the issue is the Irony of US Cluster bombing Afganistan and killing its own military in the process with these weapons!

Hodie for the love of pete you tell us that 50% of mines are laid by russians for antitank ! See this is just another example of you assuming something that is blatantly false! True there are russian landmines in afganistan but rest assured The great majority are from the us or or proxy arms dealers! My God woman do a little independant investigation! Since the russian invasion ( well actually they were invited ) The US has been supplying arms for the afgans to fight them. Perhaps you simply want to believe that you are still in OZ! Facts are facts dear!  Wake up and smell the land ines! who in heel is the only coutries who illegally use land mines ? Were they not banned internationally? Shit just look at the people in indo china! I suppose those all came from russia? the united states is by far the LARGEST ARMS DEALER IN THE UNIVERSE!

Cluster Bombs in Afghanistan

Afghanistan: Human Rights Watch Key Documents
September 11 Attacks: Crimes Against Humanity

The United States-led alliance began its air campaign in Afghanistan on October 7, 2001. While the Pentagon has been reluctant to talk of specific weapons used in the bombing, U.S. military sources have told Human Rights Watch that the Air Force began dropping cluster bombs within a matter of days.
During the first week of the campaign, it is believed that Air Force B-1 bombers dropped 50 CBU-87 cluster bombs in some five missions. CBU-87 cluster bomb use has continued after the first week, and it is believed that other airplanes joined B-1s in dropping cluster bombs on both fixed and mobile targets.

Human Rights Watch has called for a global moratorium on use of cluster bombs because they have been shown to cause unacceptable civilian casualties both during and after conflict. Cluster bombs have a wide dispersal pattern and cannot be targeted precisely, making them especially dangerous when used near civilian areas. Cluster bombs are usually used in very large numbers and have a high initial failure rate which results in numerous explosive "duds" that pose the same post-conflict problem as antipersonnel landmines.

United Nations officials have stated that on October 22 U.S. cluster bomb submunitions landed on the village of Shaker Qala, near the city of Herat in western Afghanistan, killing nine civilians and injuring fourteen. The head of the United Nations Mine Action Program in Afghanistan (U.N. MAPA) noted that villagers are afraid to leave their homes after encountering the yellow soda can-like objects characteristic of CBU-87 submunitions that were left scattered in the village after an air strike on a nearby military camp. He called upon the United States to provide information on the types of ordnance dropped on Shaker Qala and elsewhere.

On October 25, the U.S. for the first time publicly acknowledged using cluster bombs. In response to a media question, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Richard Myers said, "Yes, we have used cluster bomb units.

Each CBU-87 cluster bomb contains 202 individual submunitions, also called "bomblets," designated BLU-97/B.
Recent experience in Kosovo, and before that in the Gulf War, has shown that the exact "footprint," or landing area, of the CBU-87's bomblets is difficult to control and that an initial failure-to-explode rate of some 7 percent can be expected.