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 I know I'm not a strong handler but I do admire hard dogs and top of the line. I would rather die trying to become the handler of a dogs of my dreams than settling for a mediocre drive dog. Just an eternal quest. 

regards & thanks for everyone's advice and concern
PS: I did get the bite in case thats hard to accept you know whom to ask it was my stupidity I was acting the agitator without any protection gear just to test the inborn talents of my dog.

 and for those who suggested I keep a Czech or a low drive dog I would rather keep a labradoodle or a pug than keeping an ideal GSD!!!!!

thx & cheers

Thanks for clarifying that bite, I and others I think, were assuming it was done out of dominance.   Honestly though, was it really 9 inches?!

 yup right across my belly 

cheers

Vikram, don't equate Czech dogs with low drive dogs.....just as you don't know anything about handling a hard dog you also don't know anything about the drives of a dog. Until somebody can tell you something that is different from what you want to believe, you should not be classifying dogs. To people who really have worked and understand the different levels of drives and dogs, your comments cast you in a very unflattering light. To the novice you may sound macho, but to the informed it shows how much you DON'T know. There are many many police Czech dogs that are tough, and you can't handle a puppy?????   Think about it!!

Vikram you a joke, I know alot of czech dogs that would eat you alive, I seen experience SCH people not being able to handle some of the dogs I am talking about. You would rather die than own something less than you have? That tells me that you full of shit and your dog never realy went after you, if so let us see a pictures of your scars? Most likely you got bitch scratch and now panicking a bit that's why you asking the question. BTW people like you should not own tough dogs, people like you are the one that give tough dogs bad name. Every dog should be matched with the ability of its handler, How old is your dog? How about a pedigree? More and more it sounds like you just full of it.

And yeah my czech female is low drives that's why I have bruises and cuts all over my hands, and she always manage to clipp decoys during close agitation, and they always are blown away how quick she is. lol too bad you never will see a good czech dog.

Vikram wrote:
it was my stupidity I was acting the agitator without any protection gear just to test the inborn talents of my dog.

LMAO, stupid is right!!! For once I agree with you!!! 
What would you even know about the inborn talents of a dog or how to properly agitate or test a dog. 

For those that read this thread I will offer this advice, NEVER agitate your own dog, especially without the proper equipment.  Unless, you are very knowledgeable and experienced which Vikram obviously is not. 

What was learned from the experience:  Vikram learned that his dog will bite him when challenged or provoked.  Vikram learned that his dog is too much for him too handle and now consciously or subconsciously is afraid of his dog.  Huge problem!

What has the dog learned from this experience:  The dog learned that Vikram is now afraid of him, a very powerful message to send to your dog.  The dog also learned that when pushed by it's handler aggression will win out.  You never want a dominant dog to sense that you are afraid, not too mention to prove youre afraid.  The dog must respect YOU, not the other way around.  Vikram has created a very dangerous situation for himself.  This dog will challenge him at every step and the aggression will definitely increase and the bites will get worse.  Vikram may very well have seriously screwed up the dog of his dreams.  Please learn from his mistakes and don't "test" or agitate your own dogs, just go to an experienced trainer or decoy.  Common sense will tell you this is a very bad idea.  When immature, or inexperienced, naive handlers do this one of two things happens; the dog becomes agressive as happened here or the dog goes the other way and shuts down.    

This is exactly how you don't treat your own dog, it is borderline abusive.  It will ruin your bond with the dog and the dog will never truly trust Vikram now and vice versa.  Anyone thinking of doing this please ask yourself; should I make my dog think I'm going to aggressively challenge him for no reason?  Should my dog view me as an "agitator" or "bad guy"?  Or should my dog view me as a trusted friend, leader, partner, best buddy? 

This is truly a shame. 

Jim

Red Sable,
the bite came out of defence and the dog was either back tied with no escape or just defended himself.  You can't blame the dog for this bite, the dog was completely correct.

Thanks Jim, I was thinking it came out of  prey.  One thing that came to my mind though, was, didn't someone get their dog to Sch III on their own? (without another  human body)   I thought I read that on here somewhere.