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by Mystere on 23 February 2009 - 14:02
by SitasMom on 23 February 2009 - 15:02
My dogs definately know the difference between adults and babies. I've noticed that when a child is around 8 or 10 the dogs become less tolerant, and by the time the kids start puberty, they're considered adults in the eyes of my dogs.
Stop in mid air?? A feet of anti gravity sience?? Newton, close your eyes!
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by Sunsilver on 23 February 2009 - 15:02
Okay, let's not get dragged into Shiloh-bashing. Let's forget for a minute about the much-maligned Tina Barber (who founded the Shiloh breed for EXACTLY this reason...she wanted a kid-safe dog!) and get back on track....
I'll use instead an example from my own experience. Let's say you're at a dog training class, and a little tyke comes running from behind you, and throws his arms around your 80 lb. male GSD's neck, before you can stop him. What sort of reaction will a REAL GSD have to that?
My dog, Ranger, just sat there. That's why he's now my service dog.
The GSD in my sig would have bitten the kid's face. I had it happen when a kid (who was old enough to know better!) tried to hug her in spite of being told numerous times not to go near her.
So, which dog do you want in your home? The one who 'accidentally' rips its owner up for [reportedly] 80 stitches, or the one who can control its drives enough to pull back at the last second? And, which, in your opinion, is the better representative of the breed?
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by missbeeb on 23 February 2009 - 15:02
Any Shepherd (any dog?) that would bite a child for no reason, has an incorrect temperament. Mine would be absolutely fine... well one would start washing your child for you... but no bites!
So, Tina Barber (whoever she is) couldn't find a Shepherd with the correct temperament... and did what? Started a new (ish) breed, capable of stopping mid-air, with teeth flying... is there a full moon?
by Bob McKown on 23 February 2009 - 15:02
I will admitt you did qualify that this was not a shiloh but a German Shepherd.
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by Sunsilver on 23 February 2009 - 15:02
To drag this back on track again...
So, how many of you agree that Inges does NOT have a correct temperment?
I know opinions are going to differ on this, but IMO, any dog that bites its owner, and causes that much damage, does not have a good temperment, even if it WAS a 'mistake'. The dog can smell, can't it? Then, catching its owner's scent in the seconds before the bite should have been enough to either prevent the bite, or inhibit it to the point where it caused no or very little damage.
Geez, even a PUPPY knows how to inhibit its bites!
Edit: Thanks, Bob! At least one person here is reading my posts before responding!
by Bob McKown on 23 February 2009 - 15:02
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by missbeeb on 23 February 2009 - 16:02
Sunsilver, I have no idea who Tina Barber is (I thought that was pretty clear) and I certainly haven't "blasted" her... but her story <sigh> is, at best, a little fanciful... unless you're 4 or 5 years old.
by Jeff Oehlsen on 23 February 2009 - 16:02
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by Jenni78 on 23 February 2009 - 16:02
I don't think there's anything wrong w/Inges just based on this story. We don't know enough, IMO to say that. I don't think he necessarily has improper temperament; perhaps he just didn't like Frank, LOL. I'm joking, but trying to point out that there is so much we don't know, from environment, to the way Inges was originally handled and trained, to what actually happened in those few seconds. There might be something wrong with the dog. There might be something wrong with the way he was handled. We simply don't have enough info to judge. I am very happy that it doesn't sound as if the dog will be put down over this.
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